Flight crew of B190 failed to comply with crossing restr on paoke 1 departure from saf.

Attributes
ACN	580296
Time
Date	200304
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : saf.airport
State Reference	NM
Altitude	msl single value : 9000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Weather Elements	Turbulence
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zab.artcc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Beech 1900
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure sid : paoke
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 220
ASRS Report	580296
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : private pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 1600 flight time type : 600
ASRS Report	580295
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

PIC of flight from sante flight engineer, NM, to denver co. We were cleared to denver via the paoke 1 SID and as filed, and initial altitude to be assigned before departure. Prior to takeoff, we were cleared to our filed altitude of FL220. I understood this clearance to negate the 9000 ft 8 DME crossing restr indicated on the paoke 1 SID. Climbing through 9000 ft at 7.3 DME, we were asked by ATC (ZAB) if the restr was made. We responded by explaining our interpretation of the clearance to mean a continuous climb to our cleared altitude, and the 8 DME 9000 ft restr had been superseded. The controller responded by saying that they would prefer the restr be met in the future and cleared us to continue. I believe this situation occurred because I have had different controllers tell me different ways ATC expects us to execute the paoke 1 SID. In conclusion, this experience leads me to believe that it is better to follow any existing restr, regardless of altitude assigned.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLT CREW OF B190 FAILED TO COMPLY WITH XING RESTR ON PAOKE 1 DEP FROM SAF.

Narrative: PIC OF FLT FROM SANTE FE, NM, TO DENVER CO. WE WERE CLRED TO DENVER VIA THE PAOKE 1 SID AND AS FILED, AND INITIAL ALT TO BE ASSIGNED BEFORE DEP. PRIOR TO TKOF, WE WERE CLRED TO OUR FILED ALT OF FL220. I UNDERSTOOD THIS CLRNC TO NEGATE THE 9000 FT 8 DME XING RESTR INDICATED ON THE PAOKE 1 SID. CLBING THROUGH 9000 FT AT 7.3 DME, WE WERE ASKED BY ATC (ZAB) IF THE RESTR WAS MADE. WE RESPONDED BY EXPLAINING OUR INTERP OF THE CLRNC TO MEAN A CONTINUOUS CLB TO OUR CLRED ALT, AND THE 8 DME 9000 FT RESTR HAD BEEN SUPERSEDED. THE CTLR RESPONDED BY SAYING THAT THEY WOULD PREFER THE RESTR BE MET IN THE FUTURE AND CLRED US TO CONTINUE. I BELIEVE THIS SIT OCCURRED BECAUSE I HAVE HAD DIFFERENT CTLRS TELL ME DIFFERENT WAYS ATC EXPECTS US TO EXECUTE THE PAOKE 1 SID. IN CONCLUSION, THIS EXPERIENCE LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT IT IS BETTER TO FOLLOW ANY EXISTING RESTR, REGARDLESS OF ALT ASSIGNED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.