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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 579396 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200304 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : clt.airport |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : clt.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 850 |
| ASRS Report | 579396 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : taxiway incursion : runway non adherence : company policies non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | procedure or policy : clt.airport |
Narrative:
Pushed back off charlotte gate normally. Ramp control told us to taxi to spot X. Then without identing himself told us to follow the 'dash eight.' I followed him and continued to follow him, into controled ground txwys, across runways 5/23, where we discovered our mistake and finally contacted ground. They cleared us to continue taxiing without incident. This is the second time I have been told, by ramp control to follow an aircraft. A cockpit distraction keeps me from realizing the first officer has not called ground control, and I keep following the aircraft that ramp directed me to follow! I am not crazy about our procedures in the handoff between ramp and ground.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TXWY AND RWY INCURSION WHEN AN A320 FLT CREW FAILS TO CONTACT GND CTLR FOR TAXI CLRNC, FOLLOWING THE COMPANY'S RAMP CTLR'S TAXI INSTRUCTION INSTEAD AT CLT, NC.
Narrative: PUSHED BACK OFF CHARLOTTE GATE NORMALLY. RAMP CTL TOLD US TO TAXI TO SPOT X. THEN WITHOUT IDENTING HIMSELF TOLD US TO FOLLOW THE 'DASH EIGHT.' I FOLLOWED HIM AND CONTINUED TO FOLLOW HIM, INTO CTLED GND TXWYS, ACROSS RWYS 5/23, WHERE WE DISCOVERED OUR MISTAKE AND FINALLY CONTACTED GND. THEY CLRED US TO CONTINUE TAXIING WITHOUT INCIDENT. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I HAVE BEEN TOLD, BY RAMP CTL TO FOLLOW AN ACFT. A COCKPIT DISTR KEEPS ME FROM REALIZING THE FO HAS NOT CALLED GND CTL, AND I KEEP FOLLOWING THE ACFT THAT RAMP DIRECTED ME TO FOLLOW! I AM NOT CRAZY ABOUT OUR PROCS IN THE HDOF BTWN RAMP AND GND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.