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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 577542 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200303 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : fuz.vortac |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl single value : 12000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : bowie |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | controller military : 20 controller radar : 30 flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 577542 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllerb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Please look at a commercial chart 'bowie 7 arrival' (ukw.UKW7) to dallas. Abeam dfw is a fix named 'siler' (TTT 306 degree radial 9 DME). From siler you either fly to sturn or head 175 degrees to fuz VOR. Note #1 applies to sturn and says 'east, F, G, I, right & west suffixed aircraft landing north.' note #2 applies to fuz and said 'jets landing north.' this is confusing. The captain programmed fuz because the A320 is a 'jet.' makes sense. I suggested sturn because of our suffix. I asked approach control once we were handed off, and approach instructed us to use sturn. We were faced with reprogramming the approach, which is usually not a problem. Then approach changed the kagle at 11000 ft to bambe, then canceled the speed restr. Too many changes close in. The 'notes' on this plate should be clarified. Note #1 should say 'all aircraft with east, F, G, I right, west suffix.' note #2 should say 'all other jets.' there is no need to make this confusing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 FLT CREW MISINTERPS ARR AND FLIES WRONG HDG DURING ARR TO DFW.
Narrative: PLEASE LOOK AT A COMMERCIAL CHART 'BOWIE 7 ARR' (UKW.UKW7) TO DALLAS. ABEAM DFW IS A FIX NAMED 'SILER' (TTT 306 DEG RADIAL 9 DME). FROM SILER YOU EITHER FLY TO STURN OR HEAD 175 DEGS TO FUZ VOR. NOTE #1 APPLIES TO STURN AND SAYS 'E, F, G, I, R & W SUFFIXED ACFT LNDG N.' NOTE #2 APPLIES TO FUZ AND SAID 'JETS LNDG N.' THIS IS CONFUSING. THE CAPT PROGRAMMED FUZ BECAUSE THE A320 IS A 'JET.' MAKES SENSE. I SUGGESTED STURN BECAUSE OF OUR SUFFIX. I ASKED APCH CTL ONCE WE WERE HANDED OFF, AND APCH INSTRUCTED US TO USE STURN. WE WERE FACED WITH REPROGRAMMING THE APCH, WHICH IS USUALLY NOT A PROB. THEN APCH CHANGED THE KAGLE AT 11000 FT TO BAMBE, THEN CANCELED THE SPD RESTR. TOO MANY CHANGES CLOSE IN. THE 'NOTES' ON THIS PLATE SHOULD BE CLARIFIED. NOTE #1 SHOULD SAY 'ALL ACFT WITH E, F, G, I R, W SUFFIX.' NOTE #2 SHOULD SAY 'ALL OTHER JETS.' THERE IS NO NEED TO MAKE THIS CONFUSING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.