A300 departing jfk experienced pre departure clearance and departure controller instruction disagree...

Attributes
ACN	576111
Time
Date	200303
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jfk.airport
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl single value : 4000
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90.tracon tower : zzz.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	A320
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure sid : jfk 9
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 78 flight time total : 2200 flight time type : 78
ASRS Report	576111
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Intra Facility Coordination Failure

Narrative:

Pre departure clearance for flight ab (jfk/tpa) received at XA06 cleared us on the jfk 9 departure, canarsie climb transition. We inserted a waypoint into the flight plan to reflect this departure procedure, the canarsie 176 degree radial from cri. During the departure, we proceeded to execute the jfk 9 departure followed by the canarsie climb transition. Passing through 4000 ft and 4 NM outbound on the canarsie 176 degree radial, new york departure first asked our heading, then which departure we were on. We replied the jfk 9 departure, canarsie climb. His response (jfk departure) was that we should be on the breezy point transition/climb. We informed him the canarsie climb was given to us on our pre departure clearance. We were then vectored to rbv to join the breezy point climb/transition and then the controller handed us off to another frequency. This is the second time I have run into this situation. Where the pre departure clearance and the controller's expected transition for our aircraft differed. Each time we had a hard copy of the pre departure clearance stating the 'canarsie climb/transition' and not the 'breezy point climb/transition.'

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A300 DEPARTING JFK EXPERIENCED PDC AND DEP CTLR INSTRUCTION DISAGREEMENT.

Narrative: PDC FOR FLT AB (JFK/TPA) RECEIVED AT XA06 CLRED US ON THE JFK 9 DEP, CANARSIE CLB TRANSITION. WE INSERTED A WAYPOINT INTO THE FLT PLAN TO REFLECT THIS DEP PROC, THE CANARSIE 176 DEG RADIAL FROM CRI. DURING THE DEP, WE PROCEEDED TO EXECUTE THE JFK 9 DEP FOLLOWED BY THE CANARSIE CLB TRANSITION. PASSING THROUGH 4000 FT AND 4 NM OUTBOUND ON THE CANARSIE 176 DEG RADIAL, NEW YORK DEP FIRST ASKED OUR HDG, THEN WHICH DEP WE WERE ON. WE REPLIED THE JFK 9 DEP, CANARSIE CLB. HIS RESPONSE (JFK DEP) WAS THAT WE SHOULD BE ON THE BREEZY POINT TRANSITION/CLB. WE INFORMED HIM THE CANARSIE CLB WAS GIVEN TO US ON OUR PDC. WE WERE THEN VECTORED TO RBV TO JOIN THE BREEZY POINT CLB/TRANSITION AND THEN THE CTLR HANDED US OFF TO ANOTHER FREQ. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I HAVE RUN INTO THIS SIT. WHERE THE PDC AND THE CTLR'S EXPECTED TRANSITION FOR OUR ACFT DIFFERED. EACH TIME WE HAD A HARD COPY OF THE PDC STATING THE 'CANARSIE CLB/TRANSITION' AND NOT THE 'BREEZY POINT CLB/TRANSITION.'

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A300 departing jfk experienced pre departure clearance and departure controller instruction disagreement.