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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 570618 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200301 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phx.airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : phx.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 570618 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : gpws other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : overrode automation flight crew : executed go around none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Company |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Landing in phoenix 3 1/2 hours late. Visual approach to runway 8. Captain flying approach. We are cleared to land behind an air carrier X airplane after long gate hold in abq. About 5 mi final and at 3000 ft MSL, speed was at 210 KTS. Captain begins to configure the aircraft. After getting fully configured, I tell the captain we are very high. The captain states 'yeah, I really stuffed myself, didn't I. Give me flaps 40 degrees and compute the speeds.' I did this and at 1000 ft AGL, I made proper calls and said sink rate. He called correcting, but continued, not really correcting, and I said we should go around. He said 'nah, I got it, no problem.' I called sink rate again, and at that time, GPWS called sink rate 3 or 4 times. I put my right hand on the control column, and my left hand under his right hand on the thrust levers to initiate a go around. The aircraft called out sink rate 3 more times, and then we were at 100 ft and landed about 1000-1500 ft down the runway. The captain laughed this off, and I did not query him at the time -- due to feeling he was un-apchable at this time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 CAPT FLEW AN UNSTABILIZED APCH THAT HAD A SINK RATE OF 1500 FPM AT 100 FT, AND HAD REPEATED GPWS SINK RATE WARNINGS AT PHX.
Narrative: LNDG IN PHOENIX 3 1/2 HRS LATE. VISUAL APCH TO RWY 8. CAPT FLYING APCH. WE ARE CLRED TO LAND BEHIND AN ACR X AIRPLANE AFTER LONG GATE HOLD IN ABQ. ABOUT 5 MI FINAL AND AT 3000 FT MSL, SPD WAS AT 210 KTS. CAPT BEGINS TO CONFIGURE THE ACFT. AFTER GETTING FULLY CONFIGURED, I TELL THE CAPT WE ARE VERY HIGH. THE CAPT STATES 'YEAH, I REALLY STUFFED MYSELF, DIDN'T I. GIVE ME FLAPS 40 DEGS AND COMPUTE THE SPDS.' I DID THIS AND AT 1000 FT AGL, I MADE PROPER CALLS AND SAID SINK RATE. HE CALLED CORRECTING, BUT CONTINUED, NOT REALLY CORRECTING, AND I SAID WE SHOULD GO AROUND. HE SAID 'NAH, I GOT IT, NO PROB.' I CALLED SINK RATE AGAIN, AND AT THAT TIME, GPWS CALLED SINK RATE 3 OR 4 TIMES. I PUT MY R HAND ON THE CTL COLUMN, AND MY L HAND UNDER HIS R HAND ON THE THRUST LEVERS TO INITIATE A GAR. THE ACFT CALLED OUT SINK RATE 3 MORE TIMES, AND THEN WE WERE AT 100 FT AND LANDED ABOUT 1000-1500 FT DOWN THE RWY. THE CAPT LAUGHED THIS OFF, AND I DID NOT QUERY HIM AT THE TIME -- DUE TO FEELING HE WAS UN-APCHABLE AT THIS TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.