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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 570489 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200212 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cdw.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 1100 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 570489 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
I was transitioning teb at 1500 ft wbound. When they terminated, I called cdw tower advising '7 mi east inbound with ATIS said 'enter right downwind for runway 4.' exactly what I expected. As I flew it, controller questions 'my number, say position.' reply '2/3 of the way down the right downwind runway 4.' he clears me to land. I turn base, then final. Controller says (excitedly) 'who is that on final?' reply 'my n-number, final runway 4.' controller says 'if I had known you were coming from the right side, I would not have cleared you!' this is not something a controller should say -- it's his job to know what he's doing, and where I am -- he's the one who directed me there.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR CLAIMS THE CDW LCL CTLR BECAME EXCITED AND SURPRISED TO FIND HIM ON FINAL AFTER HE HAD FOLLOWED THE CTLR'S INSTRUCTIONS AND WAS CLRED TO LAND.
Narrative: I WAS TRANSITIONING TEB AT 1500 FT WBOUND. WHEN THEY TERMINATED, I CALLED CDW TWR ADVISING '7 MI E INBOUND WITH ATIS SAID 'ENTER R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 4.' EXACTLY WHAT I EXPECTED. AS I FLEW IT, CTLR QUESTIONS 'MY NUMBER, SAY POS.' REPLY '2/3 OF THE WAY DOWN THE R DOWNWIND RWY 4.' HE CLRS ME TO LAND. I TURN BASE, THEN FINAL. CTLR SAYS (EXCITEDLY) 'WHO IS THAT ON FINAL?' REPLY 'MY N-NUMBER, FINAL RWY 4.' CTLR SAYS 'IF I HAD KNOWN YOU WERE COMING FROM THE R SIDE, I WOULD NOT HAVE CLRED YOU!' THIS IS NOT SOMETHING A CTLR SHOULD SAY -- IT'S HIS JOB TO KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING, AND WHERE I AM -- HE'S THE ONE WHO DIRECTED ME THERE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.