DC8, rjty departure, TCASII event with unknown military aircraft.

Attributes
ACN	569249
Time
Date	200211
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : rjty.airport
State Reference	FO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2500
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : rjty.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-8 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : initial
Route In Use	departure : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : rjty.tower
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Military
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : vacating altitude
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	564249
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne critical non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment : tcas
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Miss Distance	horizontal : 300 vertical : 600
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance

Narrative:

ATC controllers did not inform us about the traffic. In most military airports, the ATC controller monitor and handle VHF and UHF radio frequencys. This kind of operation prevented us on VHF frequency from hearing any other conversation or information concerning other military traffic on UHF frequency.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: DC8, RJTY DEP, TCASII EVENT WITH UNKNOWN MIL ACFT.

Narrative: ATC CTLRS DID NOT INFORM US ABOUT THE TFC. IN MOST MIL ARPTS, THE ATC CTLR MONITOR AND HANDLE VHF AND UHF RADIO FREQS. THIS KIND OF OP PREVENTED US ON VHF FREQ FROM HEARING ANY OTHER CONVERSATION OR INFO CONCERNING OTHER MIL TFC ON UHF FREQ.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.