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PA28 pilot questions iad controller about routing not on filed flight plan only to encounter an 'angry' response.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 566531 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200211 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : hef.airport |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 47.5 flight time total : 2426 flight time type : 93.3 |
| ASRS Report | 566531 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Weather Environmental Factor ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Just starting IFR flight from khef to klyh. Had been handed off from hef tower to iad approach. At 2000 ft, following arsenal 1 departure procedure for runway 16L. Iad approach instructed me to climb to 3000 ft and proceed direct to 'manassas.' as this made no sense, I tried to clarify my clearance, but only managed to make overworked controller angry. Finally, he cleared me to csn VOR. If there is ever another occasion like this, I will simply request 'say again' until controller makes more sense.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28 PLT QUESTIONS IAD CTLR ABOUT ROUTING NOT ON FILED FLT PLAN ONLY TO ENCOUNTER AN 'ANGRY' RESPONSE.
Narrative: JUST STARTING IFR FLT FROM KHEF TO KLYH. HAD BEEN HANDED OFF FROM HEF TWR TO IAD APCH. AT 2000 FT, FOLLOWING ARSENAL 1 DEP PROC FOR RWY 16L. IAD APCH INSTRUCTED ME TO CLB TO 3000 FT AND PROCEED DIRECT TO 'MANASSAS.' AS THIS MADE NO SENSE, I TRIED TO CLARIFY MY CLRNC, BUT ONLY MANAGED TO MAKE OVERWORKED CTLR ANGRY. FINALLY, HE CLRED ME TO CSN VOR. IF THERE IS EVER ANOTHER OCCASION LIKE THIS, I WILL SIMPLY REQUEST 'SAY AGAIN' UNTIL CTLR MAKES MORE SENSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.