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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 563922 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200210 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ewr.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mdt.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B777 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 23000 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 563922 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I carried some hazmat material labeled infectious substance from ewr to tlv on oct/xa/02. Documentation provided no help as to what it was. Except to reference drill #6 and drill letter H indication -- fatal if inhaled or touched, could cause loss of pressurization/explosive and the effect on people was acute, but delayed. I asked the individual what the substance was and he didn't know. As per chief pilot, we only carry hazmat from preapproved vendors after sep/11 and the hazmat people aren't required to inspect the contents any more -- just sign and carry. Succumbed to management pressure and took hazmat without answering questions I had. Recommended improvements: if the captain wants to know something, just tell him. Support your pilots. Stop the circle of events to call the cpo on duty to force/pressure the captain and crew to do something they are uncomfortable with.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B777-200 CREW CARRIED INAPPROPRIATE DANGEROUS GOODS LABELED 'FATAL IF INHALED OR TOUCHED -- COULD CAUSE LOSS OF PRESSURIZATION EXPLOSIVE.'
Narrative: I CARRIED SOME HAZMAT MATERIAL LABELED INFECTIOUS SUBSTANCE FROM EWR TO TLV ON OCT/XA/02. DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED NO HELP AS TO WHAT IT WAS. EXCEPT TO REF DRILL #6 AND DRILL LETTER H INDICATION -- FATAL IF INHALED OR TOUCHED, COULD CAUSE LOSS OF PRESSURIZATION/EXPLOSIVE AND THE EFFECT ON PEOPLE WAS ACUTE, BUT DELAYED. I ASKED THE INDIVIDUAL WHAT THE SUBSTANCE WAS AND HE DIDN'T KNOW. AS PER CHIEF PLT, WE ONLY CARRY HAZMAT FROM PREAPPROVED VENDORS AFTER SEP/11 AND THE HAZMAT PEOPLE AREN'T REQUIRED TO INSPECT THE CONTENTS ANY MORE -- JUST SIGN AND CARRY. SUCCUMBED TO MGMNT PRESSURE AND TOOK HAZMAT WITHOUT ANSWERING QUESTIONS I HAD. RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS: IF THE CAPT WANTS TO KNOW SOMETHING, JUST TELL HIM. SUPPORT YOUR PLTS. STOP THE CIRCLE OF EVENTS TO CALL THE CPO ON DUTY TO FORCE/PRESSURE THE CAPT AND CREW TO DO SOMETHING THEY ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.