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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 561851 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200210 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : pwk.airport |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 24215 flight time type : 1110 |
| ASRS Report | 561851 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : ground |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was cleared to taxi to a runway with no hold short of any other runway. I taxied as requested and held short of the assigned runway on another runway and called tower for takeoff. Tower thought I should have held short of the other runway. I would have done that if I was cleared to the assigned runway and told to hold short of the other runway that was along the taxi route. I have flown out of this airport thousands of times which has poorly designed runway and taxiway patterns and high runway incursion problems. I would suggest that controllers be more precise in their communications. I always taxi with a taxiway chart open at this airport.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA PLT FAILS TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY HE CROSSED DURING TAXI OUT DUE TO NOT HEARING ANY TWR CTLR INSTRUCTION TO DO SO.
Narrative: I WAS CLRED TO TAXI TO A RWY WITH NO HOLD SHORT OF ANY OTHER RWY. I TAXIED AS REQUESTED AND HELD SHORT OF THE ASSIGNED RWY ON ANOTHER RWY AND CALLED TWR FOR TKOF. TWR THOUGHT I SHOULD HAVE HELD SHORT OF THE OTHER RWY. I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT IF I WAS CLRED TO THE ASSIGNED RWY AND TOLD TO HOLD SHORT OF THE OTHER RWY THAT WAS ALONG THE TAXI RTE. I HAVE FLOWN OUT OF THIS ARPT THOUSANDS OF TIMES WHICH HAS POORLY DESIGNED RWY AND TXWY PATTERNS AND HIGH RWY INCURSION PROBS. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT CTLRS BE MORE PRECISE IN THEIR COMS. I ALWAYS TAXI WITH A TXWY CHART OPEN AT THIS ARPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.