<< >> NASA ASRS Report 546852, May 2002

LA25 pilot climbs through lax class B airspace without sct approach controller after avoiding sna class C airspace.

Attributes
ACN	546852
Time
Date	200205
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : sli.vortac
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl single value : 7500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : sct.tracon
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude cruise : level
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tracon : sct.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 24000 flight time type : 200
ASRS Report	546852
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	airspace violation : entry conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Departed toa airport. When above class D airspace, called socal approach for VFR flight following and the necessary class B handling. Socal was very busy. I climbed above sna class C airspace and headed toward sna awaiting socal. Socal gave me a squawk and told to identify. I then turned on course without being idented and cleared through class B airspace. Several more idents were requested as I climbed and leveled off at 7500 ft. Upon being idented, the controller asked me if I knew I had penetrated class B without a clearance. I said I thought I had (which apparently I hadn't). Socal said they had to vector an air carrier out of my way. Very embarrassing. Why? Because I am an airline captain (26 yrs), a flight instructor (31 yrs), and had a GPS on board.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: LA25 PLT CLBS THROUGH LAX CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT SCT APCH CTLR AFTER AVOIDING SNA CLASS C AIRSPACE.

Narrative: DEPARTED TOA ARPT. WHEN ABOVE CLASS D AIRSPACE, CALLED SOCAL APCH FOR VFR FLT FOLLOWING AND THE NECESSARY CLASS B HANDLING. SOCAL WAS VERY BUSY. I CLBED ABOVE SNA CLASS C AIRSPACE AND HEADED TOWARD SNA AWAITING SOCAL. SOCAL GAVE ME A SQUAWK AND TOLD TO IDENT. I THEN TURNED ON COURSE WITHOUT BEING IDENTED AND CLRED THROUGH CLASS B AIRSPACE. SEVERAL MORE IDENTS WERE REQUESTED AS I CLBED AND LEVELED OFF AT 7500 FT. UPON BEING IDENTED, THE CTLR ASKED ME IF I KNEW I HAD PENETRATED CLASS B WITHOUT A CLRNC. I SAID I THOUGHT I HAD (WHICH APPARENTLY I HADN'T). SOCAL SAID THEY HAD TO VECTOR AN ACR OUT OF MY WAY. VERY EMBARRASSING. WHY? BECAUSE I AM AN AIRLINE CAPT (26 YRS), A FLT INSTRUCTOR (31 YRS), AND HAD A GPS ON BOARD.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.