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Potential conflict with a learjet on approach to runway 19 by an A320 on an overshot turn to visual, runway 25, at las, nv.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 544873 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200204 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl single value : 4500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Gates Learjet Corp Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 544873 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were on visual approach. First officer's leg. First officer was flying and making a visual approach to runway 25L. First officer turned late and overshot final. A learjet was flying towards runway 19, so when our flight overshot the final we flew farther north than a typical approach. ATC issued TA for us at 1 O'clock position, 3-4 mi north of our position. I saw the traffic and reported the learjet in sight. Told ATC 'we are overshooting final.' first officer turned the aircraft back to runway 25L. We had a short TA on TCASII but never got an RA. I wish I had not called the learjet in sight because it is very difficult to keep traffic in sight during a turn away from the traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH A LEARJET ON APCH TO RWY 19 BY AN A320 ON AN OVERSHOT TURN TO VISUAL, RWY 25, AT LAS, NV.
Narrative: WE WERE ON VISUAL APCH. FO'S LEG. FO WAS FLYING AND MAKING A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 25L. FO TURNED LATE AND OVERSHOT FINAL. A LEARJET WAS FLYING TOWARDS RWY 19, SO WHEN OUR FLT OVERSHOT THE FINAL WE FLEW FARTHER N THAN A TYPICAL APCH. ATC ISSUED TA FOR US AT 1 O'CLOCK POS, 3-4 MI N OF OUR POS. I SAW THE TFC AND RPTED THE LEARJET IN SIGHT. TOLD ATC 'WE ARE OVERSHOOTING FINAL.' FO TURNED THE ACFT BACK TO RWY 25L. WE HAD A SHORT TA ON TCASII BUT NEVER GOT AN RA. I WISH I HAD NOT CALLED THE LEARJET IN SIGHT BECAUSE IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO KEEP TFC IN SIGHT DURING A TURN AWAY FROM THE TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.