B757 flight crew challenges D10 for change in runway assignment due to winds.

Attributes
ACN	540883
Time
Date	200203
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : ukw.vortac
State Reference	TX
Altitude	msl single value : 11000
Environment
Weather Elements	other
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : d10.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	arrival star : bowie
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
ASRS Report	540283
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Weather Environmental Factor ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance

Narrative:

With dfw winds for the past 2 hours showing 180 degrees at 22 KTS gusting to 32 KTS, I advised my first officer to inform approach on initial contact to request runway 18R. In normal conditions, ukw arrs land on runway 13R with a south flow, but the winds overrode that consideration with the existence of a south runway. The controller was reluctant to honor our request and asked the reason for it. I replied that it was due to operational consideration due to existing surface winds. He replied his winds were 170 degrees at 13 KTS and asked if that was something I was unable to handle. I told him the ATIS winds and once again requested runway 18R. He immediately slowed us to 200 KTS. We were subsequently vectored to runway 18R where the tower continued to report winds 180 degrees at 25 KTS gusting to 32 KTS. I am concerned that the controller considered his flow more important than my decision to utilize a more logical runway. He then seemed to try to intimidate me by giving me winds that were not reported anywhere else throughout the arrival and when I did not retreat, the reduction to 200 KTS seemed punitive in nature. PIC decisions take priority over flow and ease of operation. This controller may need to be reminded of this fact and that we are all on the same team.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B757 FLC CHALLENGES D10 FOR CHANGE IN RWY ASSIGNMENT DUE TO WINDS.

Narrative: WITH DFW WINDS FOR THE PAST 2 HRS SHOWING 180 DEGS AT 22 KTS GUSTING TO 32 KTS, I ADVISED MY FO TO INFORM APCH ON INITIAL CONTACT TO REQUEST RWY 18R. IN NORMAL CONDITIONS, UKW ARRS LAND ON RWY 13R WITH A S FLOW, BUT THE WINDS OVERRODE THAT CONSIDERATION WITH THE EXISTENCE OF A S RWY. THE CTLR WAS RELUCTANT TO HONOR OUR REQUEST AND ASKED THE REASON FOR IT. I REPLIED THAT IT WAS DUE TO OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATION DUE TO EXISTING SURFACE WINDS. HE REPLIED HIS WINDS WERE 170 DEGS AT 13 KTS AND ASKED IF THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS UNABLE TO HANDLE. I TOLD HIM THE ATIS WINDS AND ONCE AGAIN REQUESTED RWY 18R. HE IMMEDIATELY SLOWED US TO 200 KTS. WE WERE SUBSEQUENTLY VECTORED TO RWY 18R WHERE THE TWR CONTINUED TO RPT WINDS 180 DEGS AT 25 KTS GUSTING TO 32 KTS. I AM CONCERNED THAT THE CTLR CONSIDERED HIS FLOW MORE IMPORTANT THAN MY DECISION TO UTILIZE A MORE LOGICAL RWY. HE THEN SEEMED TO TRY TO INTIMIDATE ME BY GIVING ME WINDS THAT WERE NOT RPTED ANYWHERE ELSE THROUGHOUT THE ARR AND WHEN I DID NOT RETREAT, THE REDUCTION TO 200 KTS SEEMED PUNITIVE IN NATURE. PIC DECISIONS TAKE PRIORITY OVER FLOW AND EASE OF OP. THIS CTLR MAY NEED TO BE REMINDED OF THIS FACT AND THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.