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A B757-200 on left engine start experienced a hot start. Station maintenance advised and was cleared to depart after normal start. Maintenance controller later advised crew engine should have been checked.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 532863 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200112 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : pushback |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 532863 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 532864 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe maintenance problem : improper maintenance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : egt inicator other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | other other |
| Factors | |
| Maintenance | contributing factor : manuals contributing factor : schedule pressure performance deficiency : inspection performance deficiency : logbook entry |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Maintenance Human Performance Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Maintenance Human Performance |
Narrative:
During pushback/engine start, the left, number 1, engine had a hot start. The engine was shut down at 568 degree C but reached 574 degree C for 1 second. N3 was 43 percent and fuel flow was 700 pounds per hour. All other indications were normal with APU psi at 32. After the engine was shut down we got out the MEL and manuals and read about aborting engine starts. The manual indicated that the interrupted start needed to be written up in the logbook but no specifics were given if maintenance needed to check the engine prior to another start attempt. We called maintenance before starting and were informed by them to go ahead and attempt another start. The second start was uneventful with no abnormalities and well within egt limitations. During taxi out we decided to check with maintenance again to ensure we were ok to go. Once again we were advised that everything was okay and well within their parameters. During cruise we had a radio patch to maintenance and they informed us it probably should have been checked prior to a second start attempt. We informed them we would write it up at destination.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757-200 ON LEFT ENG START EXPERIENCED A HOT START. STATION MAINT ADVISED AND WAS CLRED TO DEPART AFTER NORMAL START. MAINT CTLR LATER ADVISED CREW ENG SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHECKED.
Narrative: DURING PUSHBACK/ENG START, THE LEFT, NUMBER 1, ENG HAD A HOT START. THE ENG WAS SHUT DOWN AT 568 DEG C BUT REACHED 574 DEG C FOR 1 SEC. N3 WAS 43 PERCENT AND FUEL FLOW WAS 700 LBS PER HOUR. ALL OTHER INDICATIONS WERE NORMAL WITH APU PSI AT 32. AFTER THE ENG WAS SHUT DOWN WE GOT OUT THE MEL AND MANUALS AND READ ABOUT ABORTING ENG STARTS. THE MANUAL INDICATED THAT THE INTERRUPTED START NEEDED TO BE WRITTEN UP IN THE LOGBOOK BUT NO SPECIFICS WERE GIVEN IF MAINT NEEDED TO CHECK THE ENG PRIOR TO ANOTHER START ATTEMPT. WE CALLED MAINT BEFORE STARTING AND WERE INFORMED BY THEM TO GO AHEAD AND ATTEMPT ANOTHER START. THE SECOND START WAS UNEVENTFUL WITH NO ABNORMALITIES AND WELL WITHIN EGT LIMITATIONS. DURING TAXI OUT WE DECIDED TO CHECK WITH MAINT AGAIN TO ENSURE WE WERE OK TO GO. ONCE AGAIN WE WERE ADVISED THAT EVERYTHING WAS OKAY AND WELL WITHIN THEIR PARAMETERS. DURING CRUISE WE HAD A RADIO PATCH TO MAINT AND THEY INFORMED US IT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHECKED PRIOR TO A SECOND START ATTEMPT. WE INFORMED THEM WE WOULD WRITE IT UP AT DEST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.