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On visual approach to lax runway 25L, B767 flight crew make evasive maneuver due to another aircraft turning base to final to runways 24, overshooting the runways 24 final approach course.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 522872 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200108 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 1801 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 1708 |
| ASRS Report | 522872 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : clearance other anomaly other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to original clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport Airspace Structure Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During visual approach to runway 25L, lax, I noticed an aircraft that was landing on the north side, south of course. It seemed closer than normal. It was hard to tell how close, being night, so I did not call it a near miss. I believe it would have been if we didn't turn south off the localizer and descend. The turn from the north side is difficult for many reasons -- wind, controller vectors, limited visibility, etc. I have overshot it myself. I believe lax needs a final monitor control in place at all times or 2 aircraft will find the same space at the same time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ON VISUAL APCH TO LAX RWY 25L, B767 FLC MAKE EVASIVE MANEUVER DUE TO ANOTHER ACFT TURNING BASE TO FINAL TO RWYS 24, OVERSHOOTING THE RWYS 24 FINAL APCH COURSE.
Narrative: DURING VISUAL APCH TO RWY 25L, LAX, I NOTICED AN ACFT THAT WAS LNDG ON THE N SIDE, S OF COURSE. IT SEEMED CLOSER THAN NORMAL. IT WAS HARD TO TELL HOW CLOSE, BEING NIGHT, SO I DID NOT CALL IT A NEAR MISS. I BELIEVE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF WE DIDN'T TURN S OFF THE LOC AND DSND. THE TURN FROM THE N SIDE IS DIFFICULT FOR MANY REASONS -- WIND, CTLR VECTORS, LIMITED VISIBILITY, ETC. I HAVE OVERSHOT IT MYSELF. I BELIEVE LAX NEEDS A FINAL MONITOR CTL IN PLACE AT ALL TIMES OR 2 ACFT WILL FIND THE SAME SPACE AT THE SAME TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.