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Dash-8 flight crew departs from gate late and takes off past the airport closure curfew time at lga, ny.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 521670 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200108 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 521670 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Airport ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
The klas airport was set to close. Just before that time, our flight was in position at the gate and ready to taxi. I asked the ground controller if we had time to get to the runway 5 mins before closing time. The controller stated that it looked like I'd have another 15 mins. From previous experience at this airport, I had come to the understanding that published curfews were flexible and dependent on the readiness of the port authority/authorized to do routine maintenance. I assumed that this flight was no different. I asked for and was issued a taxi clearance and eventually a takeoff clearance by ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DASH-8 FLT CREW DEPARTS FROM GATE LATE AND TAKES OFF PAST THE ARPT CLOSURE CURFEW TIME AT LGA, NY.
Narrative: THE KLAS ARPT WAS SET TO CLOSE. JUST BEFORE THAT TIME, OUR FLT WAS IN POS AT THE GATE AND READY TO TAXI. I ASKED THE GND CTLR IF WE HAD TIME TO GET TO THE RWY 5 MINS BEFORE CLOSING TIME. THE CTLR STATED THAT IT LOOKED LIKE I'D HAVE ANOTHER 15 MINS. FROM PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE AT THIS ARPT, I HAD COME TO THE UNDERSTANDING THAT PUBLISHED CURFEWS WERE FLEXIBLE AND DEPENDENT ON THE READINESS OF THE PORT AUTH TO DO ROUTINE MAINT. I ASSUMED THAT THIS FLT WAS NO DIFFERENT. I ASKED FOR AND WAS ISSUED A TAXI CLRNC AND EVENTUALLY A TKOF CLRNC BY ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.