L1011 flight crew continue visual approach and land at mco with second thoughts about unstabilized a...

Attributes
ACN	511193
Time
Date	200105
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mco.airport
State Reference	FL
Altitude	agl single value : 2500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : mco.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	L-1011 Tri-Star All Series
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1500
ASRS Report	511193
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies other anomaly
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : landed as precaution
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

Descending from FL290 to land at orlando international airport, approach control kept us high (9000 ft at 18 mi), but was vectoring a base leg to final so there appeared to be time to get the aircraft slowed down and then descended. Approach then gave a turn to the airport with the clearance of 'cleared for the visual approach.' with the gear out and flaps full down, we were fast (180 KIAS) and high (2500 ft AGL) at 6 DME from touchdown. At 1000 ft AGL, we were 20 KTS fast and 1 DOT high on the GS. I considered going around, but because of the good braking capabilities of the L1011-250 aircraft, and 10000 ft of dry runway, I continued. We crossed the numbers on airspeed and on GS. Rollout was uneventful and we turned off prior to the end. The problem was that we were probably not stabilized on speed and GS until about 700 ft AGL. I should have insisted on a longer vector, used more speed brakes, got the gear out sooner, etc.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: L1011 FLC CONTINUE VISUAL APCH AND LAND AT MCO WITH SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT UNSTABILIZED APCH.

Narrative: DSNDING FROM FL290 TO LAND AT ORLANDO INTL ARPT, APCH CTL KEPT US HIGH (9000 FT AT 18 MI), BUT WAS VECTORING A BASE LEG TO FINAL SO THERE APPEARED TO BE TIME TO GET THE ACFT SLOWED DOWN AND THEN DSNDED. APCH THEN GAVE A TURN TO THE ARPT WITH THE CLRNC OF 'CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH.' WITH THE GEAR OUT AND FLAPS FULL DOWN, WE WERE FAST (180 KIAS) AND HIGH (2500 FT AGL) AT 6 DME FROM TOUCHDOWN. AT 1000 FT AGL, WE WERE 20 KTS FAST AND 1 DOT HIGH ON THE GS. I CONSIDERED GOING AROUND, BUT BECAUSE OF THE GOOD BRAKING CAPABILITIES OF THE L1011-250 ACFT, AND 10000 FT OF DRY RWY, I CONTINUED. WE CROSSED THE NUMBERS ON AIRSPD AND ON GS. ROLLOUT WAS UNEVENTFUL AND WE TURNED OFF PRIOR TO THE END. THE PROB WAS THAT WE WERE PROBABLY NOT STABILIZED ON SPD AND GS UNTIL ABOUT 700 FT AGL. I SHOULD HAVE INSISTED ON A LONGER VECTOR, USED MORE SPD BRAKES, GOT THE GEAR OUT SOONER, ETC.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

L1011 flight crew continue visual approach and land at mco with second thoughts about unstabilized approach.