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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 506244 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200103 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mmu.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Weather Elements | Rain |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 17 |
| ASRS Report | 506244 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 600 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure Operational Error |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : n90.tracon |
Narrative:
I was working ewr departure which includes mmu departures, teb departures, and ewr and cdw departures. On departure, they are all aimed at a central point which has immediate conflicts and when you try to climb your mmu departures, you're climbing into mugzy's airspace, which usually has a ton of aircraft -- but you have to quickly climb your mmu. I had a lot of ewr departure tags overlapping, wrong frequencys, frequency congestion and little airspace to work with. I started climbing an mmu departure and there was a teb arrival there being worked by mugzy. I never saw it. There needs to be a more controled environment. Don't combine satellite with departure when it is supposed to get real busy. Summary of problems: 1) too many aircraft. 2) no airspace. 3) frequency congestion. 4) combined position. 5) traffic management working your handoff -- pushing traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: N90 CTLR CONCERNED WITH INTRAFAC AIRSPACE AND DEP PROCS.
Narrative: I WAS WORKING EWR DEP WHICH INCLUDES MMU DEPS, TEB DEPS, AND EWR AND CDW DEPS. ON DEP, THEY ARE ALL AIMED AT A CENTRAL POINT WHICH HAS IMMEDIATE CONFLICTS AND WHEN YOU TRY TO CLB YOUR MMU DEPS, YOU'RE CLBING INTO MUGZY'S AIRSPACE, WHICH USUALLY HAS A TON OF ACFT -- BUT YOU HAVE TO QUICKLY CLB YOUR MMU. I HAD A LOT OF EWR DEP TAGS OVERLAPPING, WRONG FREQS, FREQ CONGESTION AND LITTLE AIRSPACE TO WORK WITH. I STARTED CLBING AN MMU DEP AND THERE WAS A TEB ARR THERE BEING WORKED BY MUGZY. I NEVER SAW IT. THERE NEEDS TO BE A MORE CTLED ENVIRONMENT. DON'T COMBINE SATELLITE WITH DEP WHEN IT IS SUPPOSED TO GET REAL BUSY. SUMMARY OF PROBS: 1) TOO MANY ACFT. 2) NO AIRSPACE. 3) FREQ CONGESTION. 4) COMBINED POS. 5) TFC MGMNT WORKING YOUR HDOF -- PUSHING TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.