<< >> NASA ASRS Report 505840, March 2001

Jax ARTCC did not have the same clearance routing that an A320 crew received via pre departure clearance before takeoff.

Attributes
ACN	505840
Time
Date	200103
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jax.airport
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl single value : 33000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	A320
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	enroute : direct enroute airway : j53.airway
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 24000
ASRS Report	505840
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Ambiguous

Narrative:

ATC clearance via pre departure clearance - caf, J20, orl, J53 dunkn... Spa 021008... Hvq, J85, djb. Just north of orlando, we were cleared direct cecil on course. We assumed the controller meant direct crg on course, as filed. A few mins later, jax center asked us if we were proceeding direct cecil. We notified jax center that we were direct cecil, the first point on our flight plan after crg. Jax center cleared us direct dunkn, flight plan route. On the way to dunkn, atlanta center asked us our filed route. We were then cleared direct irq, J85, djb, fpr. Atlanta center told us that they showed us on a different route than we were proceeding.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: JAX ARTCC DID NOT HAVE THE SAME CLRNC ROUTING THAT AN A320 CREW RECEIVED VIA PDC BEFORE TKOF.

Narrative: ATC CLRNC VIA PDC - CAF, J20, ORL, J53 DUNKN... SPA 021008... HVQ, J85, DJB. JUST N OF ORLANDO, WE WERE CLRED DIRECT CECIL ON COURSE. WE ASSUMED THE CTLR MEANT DIRECT CRG ON COURSE, AS FILED. A FEW MINS LATER, JAX CTR ASKED US IF WE WERE PROCEEDING DIRECT CECIL. WE NOTIFIED JAX CTR THAT WE WERE DIRECT CECIL, THE FIRST POINT ON OUR FLT PLAN AFTER CRG. JAX CTR CLRED US DIRECT DUNKN, FLT PLAN RTE. ON THE WAY TO DUNKN, ATLANTA CTR ASKED US OUR FILED RTE. WE WERE THEN CLRED DIRECT IRQ, J85, DJB, FPR. ATLANTA CTR TOLD US THAT THEY SHOWED US ON A DIFFERENT RTE THAN WE WERE PROCEEDING.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.