<< >> NASA ASRS Report 505000, March 2001

A B737-200 first officer fails to make the altitude crossing restr while the PIC is off with company and obtaining ATIS near eed, ca.

Attributes
ACN	505000
Time
Date	200103
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 30000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zla.artcc tower : mco.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	cruise : enroute altitude change
Route In Use	enroute airway : j6.airway
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 400 flight time total : 16200 flight time type : 10000
ASRS Report	505000
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time type : 90
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Cruising at FL330, on J6 east of eed VOR, given clearance to cross eed at FL290. I was off the #1 radio at the time checking with company and ATIS. First officer not as familiar with aircraft and autoplt with less than 100 hours in type, so I should have been more observant during this situation. However, we were 8 mi east of eed VOR and still descending through FL300. Controller checked with first officer and asked if he would make restr and first officer responded he was trying. By the time I was back in the loop, controller was saying, 'you broke the restr' or something to that effect. The lesson: always stay in the loop -- especially when during new clrncs.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A B737-200 FO FAILS TO MAKE THE ALT XING RESTR WHILE THE PIC IS OFF WITH COMPANY AND OBTAINING ATIS NEAR EED, CA.

Narrative: CRUISING AT FL330, ON J6 E OF EED VOR, GIVEN CLRNC TO CROSS EED AT FL290. I WAS OFF THE #1 RADIO AT THE TIME CHKING WITH COMPANY AND ATIS. FO NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH ACFT AND AUTOPLT WITH LESS THAN 100 HRS IN TYPE, SO I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE OBSERVANT DURING THIS SIT. HOWEVER, WE WERE 8 MI E OF EED VOR AND STILL DSNDING THROUGH FL300. CTLR CHKED WITH FO AND ASKED IF HE WOULD MAKE RESTR AND FO RESPONDED HE WAS TRYING. BY THE TIME I WAS BACK IN THE LOOP, CTLR WAS SAYING, 'YOU BROKE THE RESTR' OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. THE LESSON: ALWAYS STAY IN THE LOOP -- ESPECIALLY WHEN DURING NEW CLRNCS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.