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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 501760 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200102 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : hpn.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5700 msl bound upper : 6000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Fokker 50 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 16 other |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude descent : vacating altitude descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Mooney Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 24000 flight time type : 20 |
| ASRS Report | 501760 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Was advised by new york approach of crossing traffic at 6500 ft. As we were coming through 6900 ft, I increased rate of descent to 6000 ft. Upon reaching 6000 ft, we received a TA which was quickly followed by an RA on the TCASII. Since traffic was not yet in sight, I continued descent as per RA and turned right about 45 degrees. It was at this point that we saw traffic and received a call from approach to verify 300 ft low. I believe we bottomed out at 5800 ft and then climbed back to 6000 ft. After seeing traffic, I don't think there ever any danger. But had to follow RA as did not have other aircraft in sight. The whole event was maybe 5 seconds.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FALCON 50 DSNDED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA DURING TRANSITION FOR AN ILS APCH RESULTING IN AVOIDING A MOONEY THAT THEY WERE GIVEN AS A TA WHILE IN CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: WAS ADVISED BY NEW YORK APCH OF XING TFC AT 6500 FT. AS WE WERE COMING THROUGH 6900 FT, I INCREASED RATE OF DSCNT TO 6000 FT. UPON REACHING 6000 FT, WE RECEIVED A TA WHICH WAS QUICKLY FOLLOWED BY AN RA ON THE TCASII. SINCE TFC WAS NOT YET IN SIGHT, I CONTINUED DSCNT AS PER RA AND TURNED R ABOUT 45 DEGS. IT WAS AT THIS POINT THAT WE SAW TFC AND RECEIVED A CALL FROM APCH TO VERIFY 300 FT LOW. I BELIEVE WE BOTTOMED OUT AT 5800 FT AND THEN CLBED BACK TO 6000 FT. AFTER SEEING TFC, I DON'T THINK THERE EVER ANY DANGER. BUT HAD TO FOLLOW RA AS DID NOT HAVE OTHER ACFT IN SIGHT. THE WHOLE EVENT WAS MAYBE 5 SECONDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.