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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 495260 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200012 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : tul.airport |
| State Reference | OK |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Snow Ice |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | other personnel |
| Qualification | other |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Qualification | other other : station agent |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other other : 1 |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Weather Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
I relieved mr X at XA00, dispatch desk ab. We had 2 flts left going to tul. Dfw was in a major ice storm -- departure delays were up to 5 hours. Flight to ord-tul was in the air and flight to dfw-tul was waiting to be deiced. I looked at the field report and it showed dry runways. I called the agent in tul and asked her to update the field report. She said it was updated and the runways were dry. I said that was impossible. I called the tower and he said 2 inches of snow on runways, braking action was good. They were plowing the runway on the hour and landing from 30 mins past the hour till on the hour. I called the general manager at home and told him to tell his agent to update the field report. After 30 mins, I updated it myself. The agent called me and wanted to know who updated the report. I said that I did and the agent screamed that the agent wanted my supervisor. I hung up. We need accurate information about the field conditions for a safe operation. This was not given to me by the tul station.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR DISPATCHER WAS UNABLE TO GET A LCL STATION AGENT TO GIVE AN ACCURATE FIELD CONDITION RPT AT TUL.
Narrative: I RELIEVED MR X AT XA00, DISPATCH DESK AB. WE HAD 2 FLTS LEFT GOING TO TUL. DFW WAS IN A MAJOR ICE STORM -- DEP DELAYS WERE UP TO 5 HRS. FLT TO ORD-TUL WAS IN THE AIR AND FLT TO DFW-TUL WAS WAITING TO BE DEICED. I LOOKED AT THE FIELD RPT AND IT SHOWED DRY RWYS. I CALLED THE AGENT IN TUL AND ASKED HER TO UPDATE THE FIELD RPT. SHE SAID IT WAS UPDATED AND THE RWYS WERE DRY. I SAID THAT WAS IMPOSSIBLE. I CALLED THE TWR AND HE SAID 2 INCHES OF SNOW ON RWYS, BRAKING ACTION WAS GOOD. THEY WERE PLOWING THE RWY ON THE HR AND LNDG FROM 30 MINS PAST THE HR TILL ON THE HR. I CALLED THE GENERAL MGR AT HOME AND TOLD HIM TO TELL HIS AGENT TO UPDATE THE FIELD RPT. AFTER 30 MINS, I UPDATED IT MYSELF. THE AGENT CALLED ME AND WANTED TO KNOW WHO UPDATED THE RPT. I SAID THAT I DID AND THE AGENT SCREAMED THAT THE AGENT WANTED MY SUPVR. I HUNG UP. WE NEED ACCURATE INFO ABOUT THE FIELD CONDITIONS FOR A SAFE OP. THIS WAS NOT GIVEN TO ME BY THE TUL STATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.