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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 493800 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200012 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | ATR 72 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : atl.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | L-1011 Tri-Star All Series |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2080 flight time type : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 493800 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Taxiing on the ramp in atl, I came upon a disabled aircraft Z (tow bar broken while under tow) at the end of the ramp and an aircraft Y on the active taxiway trying to enter the ramp. From my vantage point, it appeared that I could transition between the aircraft, clearing up the ramp congestion. However, when I taxied closer, it became apparent I could not fit. As I was stopping, the crew requested that we stop. I speculate that the apparent aircraft movement made them nervous. We waited until the aircraft Z continued, then cleared the ramp without incident. The aircraft Z did not have navigation lights on. Aircraft Y again moved after decision was made to transition. Also, a desire on my part to correct a situation that was rapidly becoming a lag jam which was apparent upon taxiing closer and changing the angle of view. I should have waited until aircraft Z replaced the tow bar. The decision to attempt to expedite the situation was not made out of haste. I was trying to contribute to the solution, not the problem. Stopping and waiting for the aircraft Z to move was the best action to take.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN AIRCRAFT X AND AN AIRCRAFT Y ON THE RAMP AT ATL WERE CLOSE TO CRITICAL GND CONFLICT TRYING TO MANEUVER AROUND A AIRCRAFT Z WITH A BROKEN TOW BAR.
Narrative: TAXIING ON THE RAMP IN ATL, I CAME UPON A DISABLED AIRCRAFT Z (TOW BAR BROKEN WHILE UNDER TOW) AT THE END OF THE RAMP AND AN AIRCRAFT Y ON THE ACTIVE TXWY TRYING TO ENTER THE RAMP. FROM MY VANTAGE POINT, IT APPEARED THAT I COULD TRANSITION BTWN THE ACFT, CLRING UP THE RAMP CONGESTION. HOWEVER, WHEN I TAXIED CLOSER, IT BECAME APPARENT I COULD NOT FIT. AS I WAS STOPPING, THE CREW REQUESTED THAT WE STOP. I SPECULATE THAT THE APPARENT ACFT MOVEMENT MADE THEM NERVOUS. WE WAITED UNTIL THE AIRCRAFT Z CONTINUED, THEN CLRED THE RAMP WITHOUT INCIDENT. THE AIRCRAFT Z DID NOT HAVE NAV LIGHTS ON. AIRCRAFT Y AGAIN MOVED AFTER DECISION WAS MADE TO TRANSITION. ALSO, A DESIRE ON MY PART TO CORRECT A SIT THAT WAS RAPIDLY BECOMING A LAG JAM WHICH WAS APPARENT UPON TAXIING CLOSER AND CHANGING THE ANGLE OF VIEW. I SHOULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL AIRCRAFT Z REPLACED THE TOW BAR. THE DECISION TO ATTEMPT TO EXPEDITE THE SIT WAS NOT MADE OUT OF HASTE. I WAS TRYING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOLUTION, NOT THE PROB. STOPPING AND WAITING FOR THE AIRCRAFT Z TO MOVE WAS THE BEST ACTION TO TAKE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.