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A B737-700 flight crew is vectored 55 mi out over the atlantic ocean during an ATC exercise in traffic spacing procedures into fll, fl.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 493350 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200011 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : fll.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl single value : 19000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-700 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors arrival star : marlin enroute : atlantic |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 11300 flight time type : 6800 |
| ASRS Report | 493350 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
During the descent into fll on the marlin arrival, ZMA slowed us to 250 KTS and began vectoring us off course to provide 15 mi in trail spacing. They began vectoring us to the southeast, away from the shoreline, and I advised ATC that we could accept no more than 50 mi offshore. When we initially turned away from the shoreline, we were approximately 35-40 mi offshore. As we approached 45 mi offshore, I attempted to contact ATC to advise them that we needed to turn towards the shoreline, but the frequency was congested and we were not able to get the turn until we were approximately 50-55 mi offshore. The controller was very busy slowing and vectoring several aircraft on the arrival.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-700 FLC IS VECTORED 55 MI OUT OVER THE ATLANTIC OCEAN DURING AN ATC EXERCISE IN TFC SPACING PROCS INTO FLL, FL.
Narrative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
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.