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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 486830 | 
| Time | |
| Date | 200009 | 
| Day | Sat | 
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 | 
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sna.airport | 
| State Reference | CA | 
| Altitude | msl single value : 1100 | 
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC | 
| Light | Dusk | 
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : sna.tower  | 
| Operator | general aviation : personal | 
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 | 
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 | 
| Navigation In Use | other | 
| Flight Phase | descent : approach | 
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern | 
| Flight Plan | None | 
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : sna.tower | 
| Operator | general aviation : personal | 
| Make Model Name | Cessna Twin Piston Undifferentiated or Other Model | 
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 | 
| Flight Phase | descent : approach | 
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern | 
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other | 
| Function | flight crew : single pilot | 
| Qualification | pilot : private | 
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 52 flight time total : 176 flight time type : 115  | 
| ASRS Report | 486830 | 
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa | 
| Function | controller : local | 
| Qualification | controller : radar | 
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation  | 
| Independent Detector | other controllerb | 
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory  | 
| Miss Distance | vertical : 700 | 
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor  | 
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance | 
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation | 
Narrative:
On approach to sna from the northwest, I was handed off from socal approach to sna tower. After checking in with tower, I was instructed to enter a right downwind for runway 19R, which I did. About 1 min later, tower said that 'aircraft X is following a twin cessna on 2 mi final, cleared to land runway 19R #2 after the twin.' I mistook this transmission to mean that the twin was past me, and that I should turn base. After I started a turn to base, tower called and said that I was supposed to be on a downwind, and that I should turn left. As I was turning back to the downwind course (010 degrees). I had visual contact with the twin cessna on final for runway 19R, which was about 700 ft below me. The twin pilot indicated that he also had me in sight. I was resequenced and landed uneventfully. I had thought that the tower was indicating that the aircraft on final was not a factor. What I should have done is either visually verify that the aircraft was past me, or ask the tower to confirm that the aircraft was past me, and no factor. I have discussed the practices at sna with a local instructor, and believe that I have a better understanding of pattern operations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EARLY TURN TO BASE LEG AT SNA, CA, PRODUCES A TFC CONFLICT WITH AN ACFT ESTABLISHED ON FINAL APCH.
Narrative: ON APCH TO SNA FROM THE NW, I WAS HANDED OFF FROM SOCAL APCH TO SNA TWR. AFTER CHKING IN WITH TWR, I WAS INSTRUCTED TO ENTER A R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 19R, WHICH I DID. ABOUT 1 MIN LATER, TWR SAID THAT 'ACFT X IS FOLLOWING A TWIN CESSNA ON 2 MI FINAL, CLRED TO LAND RWY 19R #2 AFTER THE TWIN.' I MISTOOK THIS XMISSION TO MEAN THAT THE TWIN WAS PAST ME, AND THAT I SHOULD TURN BASE. AFTER I STARTED A TURN TO BASE, TWR CALLED AND SAID THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON A DOWNWIND, AND THAT I SHOULD TURN L. AS I WAS TURNING BACK TO THE DOWNWIND COURSE (010 DEGS). I HAD VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE TWIN CESSNA ON FINAL FOR RWY 19R, WHICH WAS ABOUT 700 FT BELOW ME. THE TWIN PLT INDICATED THAT HE ALSO HAD ME IN SIGHT. I WAS RESEQUENCED AND LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. I HAD THOUGHT THAT THE TWR WAS INDICATING THAT THE ACFT ON FINAL WAS NOT A FACTOR. WHAT I SHOULD HAVE DONE IS EITHER VISUALLY VERIFY THAT THE ACFT WAS PAST ME, OR ASK THE TWR TO CONFIRM THAT THE ACFT WAS PAST ME, AND NO FACTOR. I HAVE DISCUSSED THE PRACTICES AT SNA WITH A LCL INSTRUCTOR, AND BELIEVE THAT I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF PATTERN OPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.