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Flight crew of a B737-300 overshot altitude during climb out due to late clearance given by departure.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 485490 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200009 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : abq.airport |
| State Reference | NM |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9200 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : abq.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors departure sid : abq.4 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : abq.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 600 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : altimeter |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 30000 vertical : 1000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Clearance delivery originally gave us the largo 2 departure to phx but revised it at push time to read abq-onm-sso-SUNSS3-phx. The original altitude clearance was 10000 ft. No new altitude was issued with the new clearance. Our takeoff clearance was for runway 8 right turn to 190 degrees. We were not handed off to departure at the normal time. The captain asked to switch to departure as we passed about 7000 ft. We checked in with departure as we were passing 8700 ft. They immediately asked us to level at 9000 ft. I attempted to level at 9000 ft but went up to about 9160 ft. We saw company traffic at 12 O'clock position and 5 NM level at 10000 ft. The company traffic passed ahead of us 3-4 NM left to right. Departure control implied that tower should have issued us a clearance to 8000 ft. They did not. The captain called abq tower upon our arrival in phx. He was informed that departure asked us to level at 8000 ft but we never received this amended clearance due to still being on tower frequency.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A B737-300 OVERSHOT ALT DURING CLBOUT DUE TO LATE CLRNC GIVEN BY DEP.
Narrative: CLRNC DELIVERY ORIGINALLY GAVE US THE LARGO 2 DEP TO PHX BUT REVISED IT AT PUSH TIME TO READ ABQ-ONM-SSO-SUNSS3-PHX. THE ORIGINAL ALT CLRNC WAS 10000 FT. NO NEW ALT WAS ISSUED WITH THE NEW CLRNC. OUR TKOF CLRNC WAS FOR RWY 8 R TURN TO 190 DEGS. WE WERE NOT HANDED OFF TO DEP AT THE NORMAL TIME. THE CAPT ASKED TO SWITCH TO DEP AS WE PASSED ABOUT 7000 FT. WE CHKED IN WITH DEP AS WE WERE PASSING 8700 FT. THEY IMMEDIATELY ASKED US TO LEVEL AT 9000 FT. I ATTEMPTED TO LEVEL AT 9000 FT BUT WENT UP TO ABOUT 9160 FT. WE SAW COMPANY TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK POS AND 5 NM LEVEL AT 10000 FT. THE COMPANY TFC PASSED AHEAD OF US 3-4 NM L TO R. DEP CTL IMPLIED THAT TWR SHOULD HAVE ISSUED US A CLRNC TO 8000 FT. THEY DID NOT. THE CAPT CALLED ABQ TWR UPON OUR ARR IN PHX. HE WAS INFORMED THAT DEP ASKED US TO LEVEL AT 8000 FT BUT WE NEVER RECEIVED THIS AMENDED CLRNC DUE TO STILL BEING ON TWR FREQ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.