Instructor pilot worries that he has entered class B airspace during unusual attitude training.

Attributes
ACN	484940
Time
Date	200009
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl single value : 4500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other other vortac
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : instructor oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi
ASRS Report	484940
Person 2
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : private
Events
Anomaly	airspace violation : entry non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

During unusual attitude recovery, student may have entered los angeles class B airspace. Noting our position near the water treatment plant, it occurred to me that we might have entered the 4000 ft area of the los angeles class B airspace. I don't think we did, but we would have been close if we didn't. Plan to start unusual altitude recoveries with greater distance from class B airspace so I'm positive there will be no airspace incursion. I think we were under the 8000-9000 ft floor, but I'm just not sure. I was having the student fly under the hood for a while to get disoriented. I was watching for traffic and airspace. I thought the pom VOR 175 degree radial was centered so it should have been ok, but VOR hadn't been checked before this particular flight.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: INSTRUCTOR PLT WORRIES THAT HE HAS ENTERED CLASS B AIRSPACE DURING UNUSUAL ATTITUDE TRAINING.

Narrative: DURING UNUSUAL ATTITUDE RECOVERY, STUDENT MAY HAVE ENTERED LOS ANGELES CLASS B AIRSPACE. NOTING OUR POS NEAR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT WE MIGHT HAVE ENTERED THE 4000 FT AREA OF THE LOS ANGELES CLASS B AIRSPACE. I DON'T THINK WE DID, BUT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSE IF WE DIDN'T. PLAN TO START UNUSUAL ALT RECOVERIES WITH GREATER DISTANCE FROM CLASS B AIRSPACE SO I'M POSITIVE THERE WILL BE NO AIRSPACE INCURSION. I THINK WE WERE UNDER THE 8000-9000 FT FLOOR, BUT I'M JUST NOT SURE. I WAS HAVING THE STUDENT FLY UNDER THE HOOD FOR A WHILE TO GET DISORIENTED. I WAS WATCHING FOR TFC AND AIRSPACE. I THOUGHT THE POM VOR 175 DEG RADIAL WAS CTRED SO IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OK, BUT VOR HADN'T BEEN CHKED BEFORE THIS PARTICULAR FLT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.