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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 484738 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200009 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| State Reference | WA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 900 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern arrival : vfr |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern arrival : vfr |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 155 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 484738 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 2500 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Cabin Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
After an IFR training flight our aircraft was returning to home base FBO S50 VFR. Upon entering the downwind on a 45 degree, we entered into traffic pattern between 2 aircraft on downwind leg, then #2 for final. Our distance behind #1 was greater than 1 NM. Our distance ahead of #3 was 2500 ft proximity. We apparently encroached in front of #3. We did not require #3 to take evasive action, but in hindsight, could have made our pattern entry less aggressively. #3 was not visible until moments before we entered downwind. Had greater 'self-announce' radio contact been made, situation could have possibly been avoided.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIPER PA28 PVT PLT WHEN ENTERING HIS HOME BASE UNCTLED ARPT TFC PATTERN ENTERED THE DOWNWIND LEG JUST AHEAD OF A C172 ON DOWNWIND CAUSING CLOSER THAN NECESSARY SEPARATION.
Narrative: AFTER AN IFR TRAINING FLT OUR ACFT WAS RETURNING TO HOME BASE FBO S50 VFR. UPON ENTERING THE DOWNWIND ON A 45 DEG, WE ENTERED INTO TFC PATTERN BTWN 2 ACFT ON DOWNWIND LEG, THEN #2 FOR FINAL. OUR DISTANCE BEHIND #1 WAS GREATER THAN 1 NM. OUR DISTANCE AHEAD OF #3 WAS 2500 FT PROX. WE APPARENTLY ENCROACHED IN FRONT OF #3. WE DID NOT REQUIRE #3 TO TAKE EVASIVE ACTION, BUT IN HINDSIGHT, COULD HAVE MADE OUR PATTERN ENTRY LESS AGGRESSIVELY. #3 WAS NOT VISIBLE UNTIL MOMENTS BEFORE WE ENTERED DOWNWIND. HAD GREATER 'SELF-ANNOUNCE' RADIO CONTACT BEEN MADE, SIT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY BEEN AVOIDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.