 |
37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
An air carrier B727-200 flies 178 mi into ZME airspace without benefit of radio contact. Flight was not given a handoff to ZME by controller at ZTL, GA.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 483707 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200008 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : lit.vortac |
| State Reference | AR |
| Altitude | msl single value : 35000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zme.artcc tower : ord.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 2900 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 483707 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 165 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 165 |
| ASRS Report | 484061 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : separated traffic |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
On a flight plan from mco to den at FL350, we received on SELCAL from sfo radio to call ZME on frequency 124.92. ZME then asked to turn 15 degrees right for traffic. ZME asked what our previous controller was. We said ZTL on frequency 125.87. ZTL had failed to give us a switchover and we were in ZME airspace about 178 mi. ZME said they had a 'situation' in which another aircraft was co-altitude heading in the opposite direction. They descended other aircraft to another flight level. We never visually saw the other aircraft, no indications on our TCASII for any threats nearby. No conflicts noted. Recommend that ATC (ctrs) set a limit on how far an aircraft enters their zone before calling SELCAL or making contact via company dispatch. If a situation was slowly developing, then ZME acted late on notification. Our company did a SELCAL -- in under 30 seconds we were with ZME from request time to response from air crew. Supplemental information from acn 484061: we traveled less than 178 mi without communication with ARTCC. There was communication heard on the radio so it did not strike us as unusually long without direct contact.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B727-200 FLIES 178 MI INTO ZME AIRSPACE WITHOUT BENEFIT OF RADIO CONTACT. FLT WAS NOT GIVEN A HDOF TO ZME BY CTLR AT ZTL, GA.
Narrative: ON A FLT PLAN FROM MCO TO DEN AT FL350, WE RECEIVED ON SELCAL FROM SFO RADIO TO CALL ZME ON FREQ 124.92. ZME THEN ASKED TO TURN 15 DEGS R FOR TFC. ZME ASKED WHAT OUR PREVIOUS CTLR WAS. WE SAID ZTL ON FREQ 125.87. ZTL HAD FAILED TO GIVE US A SWITCHOVER AND WE WERE IN ZME AIRSPACE ABOUT 178 MI. ZME SAID THEY HAD A 'SIT' IN WHICH ANOTHER ACFT WAS CO-ALT HDG IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. THEY DSNDED OTHER ACFT TO ANOTHER FLT LEVEL. WE NEVER VISUALLY SAW THE OTHER ACFT, NO INDICATIONS ON OUR TCASII FOR ANY THREATS NEARBY. NO CONFLICTS NOTED. RECOMMEND THAT ATC (CTRS) SET A LIMIT ON HOW FAR AN ACFT ENTERS THEIR ZONE BEFORE CALLING SELCAL OR MAKING CONTACT VIA COMPANY DISPATCH. IF A SIT WAS SLOWLY DEVELOPING, THEN ZME ACTED LATE ON NOTIFICATION. OUR COMPANY DID A SELCAL -- IN UNDER 30 SECONDS WE WERE WITH ZME FROM REQUEST TIME TO RESPONSE FROM AIR CREW. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 484061: WE TRAVELED LESS THAN 178 MI WITHOUT COM WITH ARTCC. THERE WAS COM HEARD ON THE RADIO SO IT DID NOT STRIKE US AS UNUSUALLY LONG WITHOUT DIRECT CONTACT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.