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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 480754 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200007 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 12500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 480754 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was flying back from tul en route to ccr at 12500 ft with radar advisories. ATC advised me and I saw an air carrier Y B737 turning and climbing at me. He was out of 10500 ft climbing to FL230. His path appeared to me to be crossing mine at my altitude. I told center I would begin a VFR descent and slight left turn. Air carrier Y was advised by center of my action. Shortly after, air carrier Y had an RA on his TCASII and made a right descending turn right at me. To avoid him hitting me, I made a rapid climb. Neither ATC nor air carrier Y did anything to avoid this problem until it was almost too late. Either ATC or air carrier Y could have helped out by having air carrier Y remain at 11000 ft or changing their turn or tell me something else to do. There was 3 of us involved and only 1 trying to see and avoid. I would love to see a copy of air carrier Y's report.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN A CESSNA CITATION 550 IN LEVEL FLT AT 12500 FT AND A B737-300 DSNDING TOWARD THE C550 IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA FROM THEIR ORIGINAL CLBOUT.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING BACK FROM TUL ENRTE TO CCR AT 12500 FT WITH RADAR ADVISORIES. ATC ADVISED ME AND I SAW AN ACR Y B737 TURNING AND CLBING AT ME. HE WAS OUT OF 10500 FT CLBING TO FL230. HIS PATH APPEARED TO ME TO BE XING MINE AT MY ALT. I TOLD CTR I WOULD BEGIN A VFR DSCNT AND SLIGHT L TURN. ACR Y WAS ADVISED BY CTR OF MY ACTION. SHORTLY AFTER, ACR Y HAD AN RA ON HIS TCASII AND MADE A R DSNDING TURN RIGHT AT ME. TO AVOID HIM HITTING ME, I MADE A RAPID CLB. NEITHER ATC NOR ACR Y DID ANYTHING TO AVOID THIS PROB UNTIL IT WAS ALMOST TOO LATE. EITHER ATC OR ACR Y COULD HAVE HELPED OUT BY HAVING ACR Y REMAIN AT 11000 FT OR CHANGING THEIR TURN OR TELL ME SOMETHING ELSE TO DO. THERE WAS 3 OF US INVOLVED AND ONLY 1 TRYING TO SEE AND AVOID. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A COPY OF ACR Y'S RPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.