<< >> NASA ASRS Report 477230, June 2000

A descending MD88 flight crew 20 mi from airport is challenged regarding their supposed clearance to 4000 ft and told to climb back to 6000 ft by approach controller at pit, PA.

Attributes
ACN	477230
Time
Date	200006
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : pit.airport
State Reference	PA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 6000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : pit.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-88
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	descent : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	arrival : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	497230
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 4800 flight time type : 1700
ASRS Report	477229
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to original clearance
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated Other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

On approach, controller told us to descend to 4000 ft from 7000 ft. Passing 5800 ft, controller told us to go back to 6000 ft -- we weren't cleared to 4000 ft. No conflict occurred. On the ground in pit, controller called us at aircraft to tell us they were in error, we 'were' cleared to 4000 ft.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A DSNDING MD88 FLC 20 MI FROM ARPT IS CHALLENGED REGARDING THEIR SUPPOSED CLRNC TO 4000 FT AND TOLD TO CLB BACK TO 6000 FT BY APCH CTLR AT PIT, PA.

Narrative: ON APCH, CTLR TOLD US TO DSND TO 4000 FT FROM 7000 FT. PASSING 5800 FT, CTLR TOLD US TO GO BACK TO 6000 FT -- WE WEREN'T CLRED TO 4000 FT. NO CONFLICT OCCURRED. ON THE GND IN PIT, CTLR CALLED US AT ACFT TO TELL US THEY WERE IN ERROR, WE 'WERE' CLRED TO 4000 FT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.