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Medium large transport crew insisted the ATCT local controller use the correct phraseology prior to taking the active runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 476893 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200006 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mdw.airport |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mdw.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 737 |
| ASRS Report | 476893 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : mdw.tower |
Narrative:
Controller used nonstandard terminology 'air carrier X, follow air carrier Y onto the runway, you're going right after him, be ready.' I began to taxi past the hold short line when I realized that he had not cleared air carrier Y for takeoff, so I stopped. After air carrier Y took off (with a clearance issued from tower), I heard tower tell a private jet to 'follow air carrier X onto the runway.' I remained where I was until tower cleared me for takeoff -- somewhat impatient for me not taxiing into position, but I was not going to move any longer without 1 of the 2 standard phrases -- either 'position and hold' or 'cleared for takeoff' and I will not again!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG CREW INSISTED THE ATCT LCL CTLR USE THE CORRECT PHRASEOLOGY PRIOR TO TAKING THE ACTIVE RWY.
Narrative: CTLR USED NONSTANDARD TERMINOLOGY 'ACR X, FOLLOW ACR Y ONTO THE RWY, YOU'RE GOING RIGHT AFTER HIM, BE READY.' I BEGAN TO TAXI PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE WHEN I REALIZED THAT HE HAD NOT CLRED ACR Y FOR TKOF, SO I STOPPED. AFTER ACR Y TOOK OFF (WITH A CLRNC ISSUED FROM TWR), I HEARD TWR TELL A PVT JET TO 'FOLLOW ACR X ONTO THE RWY.' I REMAINED WHERE I WAS UNTIL TWR CLRED ME FOR TKOF -- SOMEWHAT IMPATIENT FOR ME NOT TAXIING INTO POS, BUT I WAS NOT GOING TO MOVE ANY LONGER WITHOUT 1 OF THE 2 STANDARD PHRASES -- EITHER 'POS AND HOLD' OR 'CLRED FOR TKOF' AND I WILL NOT AGAIN!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.