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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 473428 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200005 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : djb.vortac |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | msl single value : 22000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Thunderstorm Ice Rain |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 3 controller radar : 15.5 controller supervisory : 0.25 |
| ASRS Report | 473428 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | controller : developmental |
| Experience | controller military : 9 |
| ASRS Report | 473427 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera other controllerb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 24400 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Weather ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Had just taken sector while in the hold and then were immediately pulled out of hold. I was focused that trainee was giving proper clrncs and that they were being read back properly. There was a lot of coordination going on that was distracting and confusing. I didn't realize trainee hadn't made pointout to mfd sector, on aircraft #1 and he got together with air carrier #2 in mfd's airspace. Supplemental information from acn 473427: air carrier #1 in hold at wakem intersection at FL220 when conflict alert went off with air carrier #2. Air carrier #1 was turned to a 260 degree heading to avoid air carrier #2. Assumption was made that a pointout was made to the adjacent sector that would have avoided the conflict.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZOB CTLR INSTRUCTOR PROVIDING OJT INVOLVED IN AN OPERROR WHEN POINTOUT TO ADJOINING SECTOR WAS NOT COMPLETED WHEN TFC VECTORED OUT OF HOLDING.
Narrative: HAD JUST TAKEN SECTOR WHILE IN THE HOLD AND THEN WERE IMMEDIATELY PULLED OUT OF HOLD. I WAS FOCUSED THAT TRAINEE WAS GIVING PROPER CLRNCS AND THAT THEY WERE BEING READ BACK PROPERLY. THERE WAS A LOT OF COORD GOING ON THAT WAS DISTRACTING AND CONFUSING. I DIDN'T REALIZE TRAINEE HADN'T MADE POINTOUT TO MFD SECTOR, ON ACFT #1 AND HE GOT TOGETHER WITH ACR #2 IN MFD'S AIRSPACE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 473427: ACR #1 IN HOLD AT WAKEM INTXN AT FL220 WHEN CONFLICT ALERT WENT OFF WITH ACR #2. ACR #1 WAS TURNED TO A 260 DEG HDG TO AVOID ACR #2. ASSUMPTION WAS MADE THAT A POINTOUT WAS MADE TO THE ADJACENT SECTOR THAT WOULD HAVE AVOIDED THE CONFLICT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.