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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 473428 | 
| Time | |
| Date | 200005 | 
| Day | Tue | 
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 | 
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : djb.vortac | 
| State Reference | OH | 
| Altitude | msl single value : 22000 | 
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC | 
| Weather Elements | Thunderstorm Ice Rain  | 
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc | 
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier | 
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing | 
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 | 
| Flight Phase | cruise : holding | 
| Flight Plan | IFR | 
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc | 
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier | 
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing | 
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 | 
| Flight Phase | cruise : level | 
| Flight Plan | IFR | 
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa | 
| Function | instruction : instructor | 
| Qualification | controller : radar | 
| Experience | controller non radar : 3 controller radar : 15.5 controller supervisory : 0.25  | 
| ASRS Report | 473428 | 
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa | 
| Function | instruction : trainee | 
| Qualification | controller : developmental | 
| Experience | controller military : 9 | 
| ASRS Report | 473427 | 
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation  | 
| Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera other controllerb  | 
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact | 
| Consequence | faa : investigated | 
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 24400 vertical : 0  | 
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Weather ATC Human Performance  | 
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance | 
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Intra Facility Coordination Failure  | 
Narrative:
Had just taken sector while in the hold and then were immediately pulled out of hold. I was focused that trainee was giving proper clrncs and that they were being read back properly. There was a lot of coordination going on that was distracting and confusing. I didn't realize trainee hadn't made pointout to mfd sector, on aircraft #1 and he got together with air carrier #2 in mfd's airspace. Supplemental information from acn 473427: air carrier #1 in hold at wakem intersection at FL220 when conflict alert went off with air carrier #2. Air carrier #1 was turned to a 260 degree heading to avoid air carrier #2. Assumption was made that a pointout was made to the adjacent sector that would have avoided the conflict.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZOB CTLR INSTRUCTOR PROVIDING OJT INVOLVED IN AN OPERROR WHEN POINTOUT TO ADJOINING SECTOR WAS NOT COMPLETED WHEN TFC VECTORED OUT OF HOLDING.
Narrative: HAD JUST TAKEN SECTOR WHILE IN THE HOLD AND THEN WERE IMMEDIATELY PULLED OUT OF HOLD. I WAS FOCUSED THAT TRAINEE WAS GIVING PROPER CLRNCS AND THAT THEY WERE BEING READ BACK PROPERLY. THERE WAS A LOT OF COORD GOING ON THAT WAS DISTRACTING AND CONFUSING. I DIDN'T REALIZE TRAINEE HADN'T MADE POINTOUT TO MFD SECTOR, ON ACFT #1 AND HE GOT TOGETHER WITH ACR #2 IN MFD'S AIRSPACE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 473427: ACR #1 IN HOLD AT WAKEM INTXN AT FL220 WHEN CONFLICT ALERT WENT OFF WITH ACR #2. ACR #1 WAS TURNED TO A 260 DEG HDG TO AVOID ACR #2. ASSUMPTION WAS MADE THAT A POINTOUT WAS MADE TO THE ADJACENT SECTOR THAT WOULD HAVE AVOIDED THE CONFLICT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.