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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 470893 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200004 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mgm.airport |
| State Reference | AL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Learjet 35 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mgm.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : position and hold |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : flight data |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Experience | controller time certified in position1 : 0.4 flight time total : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 470893 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other other : no 1 |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
This event seems like a non event. Degree divergence was established and proper separation minima can be proved with an investigation. These 2 aircraft got close on departure and one was on a practice approach. But, with a heads up attitude, the radar controller established good separation. Where the problem arises in this incident was on departure of the citation. He was a small departing from an intersection with a wake turbulence hold behind a small plus on a touch-and-go. I witnessed the local controller solicit a wake turbulence waiver from an intersection, after informing the pilot at that position there was a hold.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATCT LCL CTLR ASKED FLC OF A CPR CESSNA CITATION IF THEY WANTED TO WAIVE THE REQUIRED HOLD FOR WAKE TURB AT A RWY INTXN AFTER A DEPARTING LEAR JET. THEY DID AND TOOK OFF.
Narrative: THIS EVENT SEEMS LIKE A NON EVENT. DEG DIVERGENCE WAS ESTABLISHED AND PROPER SEPARATION MINIMA CAN BE PROVED WITH AN INVESTIGATION. THESE 2 ACFT GOT CLOSE ON DEP AND ONE WAS ON A PRACTICE APCH. BUT, WITH A HEADS UP ATTITUDE, THE RADAR CTLR ESTABLISHED GOOD SEPARATION. WHERE THE PROB ARISES IN THIS INCIDENT WAS ON DEP OF THE CITATION. HE WAS A SMALL DEPARTING FROM AN INTXN WITH A WAKE TURB HOLD BEHIND A SMALL PLUS ON A TOUCH-AND-GO. I WITNESSED THE LCL CTLR SOLICIT A WAKE TURB WAIVER FROM AN INTXN, AFTER INFORMING THE PLT AT THAT POS THERE WAS A HOLD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.