<< >> NASA ASRS Report 465713, March 2000

Flight crew of a DC9-30 failed to make a STAR arrival crossing restr due to being slowed by approach controller causing the crew to believe the crossing restr was not then required.

Attributes
ACN	465713
Time
Date	200003
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : atl.vortac
State Reference	GA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14600
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : atl.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-9 30
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	other vortac
Route In Use	arrival star : rome two
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 2200 flight time type : 250
ASRS Report	465713
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1500
ASRS Report	465380
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : altimeter other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

While descending to cross dalas at 14000 ft MSL, approach control told us to slow, but did not tell us crossing restr did not apply. We ended up not getting to 14000 ft MSL on time.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC OF A DC9-30 FAILED TO MAKE A STAR ARR XING RESTR DUE TO BEING SLOWED BY APCH CTLR CAUSING THE CREW TO BELIEVE THE XING RESTR WAS NOT THEN REQUIRED.

Narrative: WHILE DSNDING TO CROSS DALAS AT 14000 FT MSL, APCH CTL TOLD US TO SLOW, BUT DID NOT TELL US XING RESTR DID NOT APPLY. WE ENDED UP NOT GETTING TO 14000 FT MSL ON TIME.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.