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HS25B crew northwest of hub inbound to lbx located south of hub is assigned an arrival STAR primarily used by turbojets landing hobby airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 462860 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200002 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : lisse |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | HS 125 Series 700 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival star : lisse four arrival |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | controller non radar : 5 controller radar : 5 flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 450 flight time type : 125 |
| ASRS Report | 462860 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
On IFR flight plan we were cleared to the lbx airport from ile. Approximately 20 mi out, we were told to descend to 13000 ft and go to lisse intersection and expect the lisse 4 arrival. We did not have this STAR out because it does not serve the lake jackson angleton (lbx) airport. By the time the STAR was pulled, we were over lisse and the controller asked us to verify our altitude. He informed us that our instructions were to cross lisse at 10000 ft. I do not believe this to be true. In any case, the STAR did not serve the lbx airport. At lisse we were cleared direct to lbx and told to descend to 5000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HS25B CREW NW OF HUB INBOUND TO LBX LOCATED S OF HUB IS ASSIGNED AN ARR STAR PRIMARILY USED BY TURBOJETS LNDG HOBBY ARPT.
Narrative: ON IFR FLT PLAN WE WERE CLRED TO THE LBX ARPT FROM ILE. APPROX 20 MI OUT, WE WERE TOLD TO DSND TO 13000 FT AND GO TO LISSE INTXN AND EXPECT THE LISSE 4 ARR. WE DID NOT HAVE THIS STAR OUT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT SERVE THE LAKE JACKSON ANGLETON (LBX) ARPT. BY THE TIME THE STAR WAS PULLED, WE WERE OVER LISSE AND THE CTLR ASKED US TO VERIFY OUR ALT. HE INFORMED US THAT OUR INSTRUCTIONS WERE TO CROSS LISSE AT 10000 FT. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS TO BE TRUE. IN ANY CASE, THE STAR DID NOT SERVE THE LBX ARPT. AT LISSE WE WERE CLRED DIRECT TO LBX AND TOLD TO DSND TO 5000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.