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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 458602 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199912 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sdf.airport |
| State Reference | KY |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Ice Snow Fog |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : sdf.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-8 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : sdf.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing : go around |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 4800 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 458602 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway inflight encounter : weather |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Heavy snow, dark, 3 hours late, lots of distrs. Cleared for takeoff while still 400 ft from departure end of runway. Unable to see us. We had to cancel takeoff clearance due to a question about our hold-over time for deice. I said I needed 1 min. Tower canceled takeoff clearance, but we were already past ILS hold short line. I held at the regular hold short line and did my business. Then, I saw a B727 appear on short final and he executed missed approach -- possibly because we were past ILS hold short. I didn't know there was a plane on final and didn't think that tower couldn't see me.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FREIGHTER CREW TAXIES PAST ILS HOLD SHORT LINE RESULTING IN MISSED APCH BY ACFT ON ILS.
Narrative: HVY SNOW, DARK, 3 HRS LATE, LOTS OF DISTRS. CLRED FOR TKOF WHILE STILL 400 FT FROM DEP END OF RWY. UNABLE TO SEE US. WE HAD TO CANCEL TKOF CLRNC DUE TO A QUESTION ABOUT OUR HOLD-OVER TIME FOR DEICE. I SAID I NEEDED 1 MIN. TWR CANCELED TKOF CLRNC, BUT WE WERE ALREADY PAST ILS HOLD SHORT LINE. I HELD AT THE REGULAR HOLD SHORT LINE AND DID MY BUSINESS. THEN, I SAW A B727 APPEAR ON SHORT FINAL AND HE EXECUTED MISSED APCH -- POSSIBLY BECAUSE WE WERE PAST ILS HOLD SHORT. I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A PLANE ON FINAL AND DIDN'T THINK THAT TWR COULDN'T SEE ME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.