An air carrier flight crew flying a B737-800 reports acknowledging to ground control at pvd that they failed to stop at the hold short line to runway 5R/23L.

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Attributes
ACN	455450
Time
Date	199911
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : pvd.airport
State Reference	RI
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-800
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : pvd.tower
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 11410 flight time type : 1320
ASRS Report	455450
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory controller : provided flight assist flight crew : became reoriented
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airport Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation
Situations
Airport	markings : pvd.airport procedure or policy : pvd.airport

Narrative:

We were taxiing from the terminal to runway 34 via taxiway T1, taxiway C and taxiway K. We were told to hold short of runway 5R/23L. As we made the turn from taxiway C onto K, a jet took off in front of us using runway 23L. After turning onto taxiway K, I looked for the hold short lines on taxiway K. We were looking directly into the morning sun. I saw some hold short lines prior to runway 23L, but after looking at them for a few seconds and getting closer to them, both the captain and I realized that they had been painted over. Just then, pvd ground advised us to hold short of runway 23L, that we had passed the hold short line. I told ground that we were holding short, that we knew that we had passed the hold short line, but the line was very difficult to see taxiing toward the sun. No other comment was made by ground or me.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR FLC FLYING A B737-800 RPTS ACKNOWLEDGING TO GND CTL AT PVD THAT THEY FAILED TO STOP AT THE HOLD SHORT LINE TO RWY 5R/23L.

Narrative: WE WERE TAXIING FROM THE TERMINAL TO RWY 34 VIA TXWY T1, TXWY C AND TXWY K. WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 5R/23L. AS WE MADE THE TURN FROM TXWY C ONTO K, A JET TOOK OFF IN FRONT OF US USING RWY 23L. AFTER TURNING ONTO TXWY K, I LOOKED FOR THE HOLD SHORT LINES ON TXWY K. WE WERE LOOKING DIRECTLY INTO THE MORNING SUN. I SAW SOME HOLD SHORT LINES PRIOR TO RWY 23L, BUT AFTER LOOKING AT THEM FOR A FEW SECONDS AND GETTING CLOSER TO THEM, BOTH THE CAPT AND I REALIZED THAT THEY HAD BEEN PAINTED OVER. JUST THEN, PVD GND ADVISED US TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 23L, THAT WE HAD PASSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE. I TOLD GND THAT WE WERE HOLDING SHORT, THAT WE KNEW THAT WE HAD PASSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE, BUT THE LINE WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE TAXIING TOWARD THE SUN. NO OTHER COMMENT WAS MADE BY GND OR ME.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.