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An air carrier first officer reported that his flight received instructions to cross jaxsn at FL250, but were not given the accompanying descent instructions.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 454930 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199911 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : jaxsn |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 25000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : j14.airway |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 454930 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cruising on J14 to ric. At gso 058-069 degree radial, the controller asked us if we were going to make our descent to cross jaxsn at FL250. We started down immediately and got to FL250 at gso 058-072 degree radial. We never heard any clearance to leave FL290 prior to that mentioned above.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FO RPTED THAT HIS FLT RECEIVED INSTRUCTIONS TO CROSS JAXSN AT FL250, BUT WERE NOT GIVEN THE ACCOMPANYING DSCNT INSTRUCTIONS.
Narrative: CRUISING ON J14 TO RIC. AT GSO 058-069 DEG RADIAL, THE CTLR ASKED US IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE OUR DSCNT TO CROSS JAXSN AT FL250. WE STARTED DOWN IMMEDIATELY AND GOT TO FL250 AT GSO 058-072 DEG RADIAL. WE NEVER HEARD ANY CLRNC TO LEAVE FL290 PRIOR TO THAT MENTIONED ABOVE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.