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DHC8 crew concerned over critical navigation areas near cew. While on airway, a small navigation error may lead to violation of restr area.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 454660 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199911 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : cew.vortac |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl single value : 16000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : v198.airway |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time total : 11000 |
| ASRS Report | 454660 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited adverse environment |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
Reference V198 between mai and cew (ZJX airspace, controller) vectored our flight further north due to close proximity to R2914A. Controller advised this is a recurring problem with all flts. (Our needles were centered.) I measured and the closest passage to R2914A is 4 1/2 mi. FAA needs to design the airway further north -- to allow for wind drift errors in navigation. Some air crew will get violated due to a pitfall in design.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DHC8 CREW CONCERNED OVER CRITICAL NAV AREAS NEAR CEW. WHILE ON AIRWAY, A SMALL NAV ERROR MAY LEAD TO VIOLATION OF RESTR AREA.
Narrative: REF V198 BTWN MAI AND CEW (ZJX AIRSPACE, CTLR) VECTORED OUR FLT FURTHER N DUE TO CLOSE PROX TO R2914A. CTLR ADVISED THIS IS A RECURRING PROB WITH ALL FLTS. (OUR NEEDLES WERE CTRED.) I MEASURED AND THE CLOSEST PASSAGE TO R2914A IS 4 1/2 MI. FAA NEEDS TO DESIGN THE AIRWAY FURTHER N -- TO ALLOW FOR WIND DRIFT ERRORS IN NAV. SOME AIR CREW WILL GET VIOLATED DUE TO A PITFALL IN DESIGN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.