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ZDV ARTCC controller berates flight crew for deviating WX that previous controller had given clearance for B757.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 447295 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199908 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cys.airport |
| State Reference | WY |
| Altitude | msl single value : 41000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 30 |
| ASRS Report | 447295 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 447290 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
While deviating north around thunderstorms 1 controller gave us 'carte blanche' to deviate in any direction. We were handed off and, upon turning back south toward our original course, we were treated to a lecture from the new controller as to the wisdom of 'advising center when changing directions' so they don't run us into another aircraft. The easy fix is to communicate when there is the slightest doubt, realize that different controllers have different sits to deal with, and don't assume.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZDV ARTCC CTLR BERATES FLC FOR DEVIATING WX THAT PREVIOUS CTLR HAD GIVEN CLRNC FOR B757.
Narrative: WHILE DEVIATING N AROUND TSTMS 1 CTLR GAVE US 'CARTE BLANCHE' TO DEVIATE IN ANY DIRECTION. WE WERE HANDED OFF AND, UPON TURNING BACK S TOWARD OUR ORIGINAL COURSE, WE WERE TREATED TO A LECTURE FROM THE NEW CTLR AS TO THE WISDOM OF 'ADVISING CTR WHEN CHANGING DIRECTIONS' SO THEY DON'T RUN US INTO ANOTHER ACFT. THE EASY FIX IS TO COMMUNICATE WHEN THERE IS THE SLIGHTEST DOUBT, REALIZE THAT DIFFERENT CTLRS HAVE DIFFERENT SITS TO DEAL WITH, AND DON'T ASSUME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.