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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 440790 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199906 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sna.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : sna.tower tower : dca.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 19r other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : sna.tower |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 440790 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance FAA |
| Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
Dangerous sna operating practice. While crossing the freeway at 300 ft, I looked up to see a helicopter, later confirmed by TCASII to be at 500 ft AGL, crossing the field exactly at the midpoint of runway 19R. This aircraft was precisely in the airspace I would have flown through if I had needed to make a missed approach for some reason. After clearing the runway, I queried tower if they had cleared the helicopter through there. They replied in the affirmative and further averred that it was SOP. If it is indeed, then murphy will decree a midair sooner or later.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 CREW HAD SNA TWR RELEASE A HELI INTO THE MISSED APCH PATH OF THE ACFT.
Narrative: DANGEROUS SNA OPERATING PRACTICE. WHILE XING THE FREEWAY AT 300 FT, I LOOKED UP TO SEE A HELI, LATER CONFIRMED BY TCASII TO BE AT 500 FT AGL, XING THE FIELD EXACTLY AT THE MIDPOINT OF RWY 19R. THIS ACFT WAS PRECISELY IN THE AIRSPACE I WOULD HAVE FLOWN THROUGH IF I HAD NEEDED TO MAKE A MISSED APCH FOR SOME REASON. AFTER CLRING THE RWY, I QUERIED TWR IF THEY HAD CLRED THE HELI THROUGH THERE. THEY REPLIED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND FURTHER AVERRED THAT IT WAS SOP. IF IT IS INDEED, THEN MURPHY WILL DECREE A MIDAIR SOONER OR LATER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.