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A taxiing B58 baron crosses the end of runway 21R at luk and gets a reprimand from the ground controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 437828 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199905 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : luk.airport |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Baron 58/58TC |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 3300 |
| ASRS Report | 437828 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : ground |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : luk.tower |
| Airport | markings : luk.airport |
Narrative:
The FBO is located on southwest area of field. I had received en route clearance as well as taxi clearance. I understood to taxi to runway 21L by taxiway C and taxiway a. I did not notice any hold short lines or runway sign for runway 3L/21R. I do not recall hearing or repeating any 'hold short' instruction. Runway 3L/21R appears actually to end short of taxiway C. I asked controller if I was cleared to cross runway 7/25. He then said yes and that I should have held short of runway 3L/21R. I commented that I had not heard or 'seen' any hold short information. I do not believe that there was any question of separation of aircraft. I believe, too, that there may have been 2 controllers involved on radio. I do not have any suggestions. I am a safe pilot and aware of runway incursion dangers.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A TAXIING B58 BARON CROSSES THE END OF RWY 21R AT LUK AND GETS A REPRIMAND FROM THE GND CTLR.
Narrative: THE FBO IS LOCATED ON SW AREA OF FIELD. I HAD RECEIVED ENRTE CLRNC AS WELL AS TAXI CLRNC. I UNDERSTOOD TO TAXI TO RWY 21L BY TXWY C AND TXWY A. I DID NOT NOTICE ANY HOLD SHORT LINES OR RWY SIGN FOR RWY 3L/21R. I DO NOT RECALL HEARING OR REPEATING ANY 'HOLD SHORT' INSTRUCTION. RWY 3L/21R APPEARS ACTUALLY TO END SHORT OF TXWY C. I ASKED CTLR IF I WAS CLRED TO CROSS RWY 7/25. HE THEN SAID YES AND THAT I SHOULD HAVE HELD SHORT OF RWY 3L/21R. I COMMENTED THAT I HAD NOT HEARD OR 'SEEN' ANY HOLD SHORT INFO. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS ANY QUESTION OF SEPARATION OF ACFT. I BELIEVE, TOO, THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN 2 CTLRS INVOLVED ON RADIO. I DO NOT HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS. I AM A SAFE PLT AND AWARE OF RWY INCURSION DANGERS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.