<< >> NASA ASRS Report 432790, April 1999

Super 80 air carrier crew taxied onto a runway short of the full length. The tower controller allowed them to back taxi to use the full length.

Attributes
ACN	432790
Time
Date	199904
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ord.airport
State Reference	IL
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-80 Super 80
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : position and hold ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 220
ASRS Report	432790
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

After being placed in runway 22L hold box, we were cleared to taxi into position and hold on runway 22L. There was a sign directly ahead that was labeled runway 22L, and I was unable to see a taxiway onto the runway further down. So we started to taxi into position via intersection Q instead of full length. We realized it, as did tower, and asked tower to allow us to back taxi down the runway for full length. They cleared us to back taxi and we took off with no known disruptions of other traffic. Good backup of tower personnel.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SUPER 80 ACR CREW TAXIED ONTO A RWY SHORT OF THE FULL LENGTH. THE TWR CTLR ALLOWED THEM TO BACK TAXI TO USE THE FULL LENGTH.

Narrative: AFTER BEING PLACED IN RWY 22L HOLD BOX, WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD ON RWY 22L. THERE WAS A SIGN DIRECTLY AHEAD THAT WAS LABELED RWY 22L, AND I WAS UNABLE TO SEE A TXWY ONTO THE RWY FURTHER DOWN. SO WE STARTED TO TAXI INTO POS VIA INTXN Q INSTEAD OF FULL LENGTH. WE REALIZED IT, AS DID TWR, AND ASKED TWR TO ALLOW US TO BACK TAXI DOWN THE RWY FOR FULL LENGTH. THEY CLRED US TO BACK TAXI AND WE TOOK OFF WITH NO KNOWN DISRUPTIONS OF OTHER TFC. GOOD BACKUP OF TWR PERSONNEL.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.