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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 430029 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199902 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : apa.airport |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 100 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Weather Elements | Turbulence |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : apa.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | PA-31T-1 Cheyenne I |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 295 |
| Flight Phase | descent other landing : roll |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : apa.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Cessna Single Piston Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 430029 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway inflight encounter : turbulence non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 4000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Moderate turbulence below FL220 on arrival to den area. Long final at centennial for ILS to the right runway. Cleared to land over the OM. At approximately 100-200 ft AGL, I thought I might have seen something on the runway but it seemed to disappear. I landed the aircraft and planned to exit approximately 7000-8000 ft down the runway. As I progressed down the runway I saw the single engine cessna turning off about 5000 ft beyond me. I exited the runway about 4000 ft prior to him. Nothing was ever said between any ATC facility and either aircraft. I should have questioned ATC about what I thought I might have seen but at 100 ft the only way to do this would have been to go around. I was not excited about the possibility of another long approach in moderate turbulence. ATC was obviously aware there would be a conflict but not a word was ever spoken either before or after the event. We all waited and hoped a little too long instead of taking decisive action.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PIPER CHEYENNE PLT LANDS ON AN OCCUPIED RWY AT CENTENNIAL ARPT WITHOUT ANY ADVISORY BY THE TWR CTLR.
Narrative: MODERATE TURB BELOW FL220 ON ARR TO DEN AREA. LONG FINAL AT CENTENNIAL FOR ILS TO THE R RWY. CLRED TO LAND OVER THE OM. AT APPROX 100-200 FT AGL, I THOUGHT I MIGHT HAVE SEEN SOMETHING ON THE RWY BUT IT SEEMED TO DISAPPEAR. I LANDED THE ACFT AND PLANNED TO EXIT APPROX 7000-8000 FT DOWN THE RWY. AS I PROGRESSED DOWN THE RWY I SAW THE SINGLE ENG CESSNA TURNING OFF ABOUT 5000 FT BEYOND ME. I EXITED THE RWY ABOUT 4000 FT PRIOR TO HIM. NOTHING WAS EVER SAID BTWN ANY ATC FACILITY AND EITHER ACFT. I SHOULD HAVE QUESTIONED ATC ABOUT WHAT I THOUGHT I MIGHT HAVE SEEN BUT AT 100 FT THE ONLY WAY TO DO THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN TO GO AROUND. I WAS NOT EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ANOTHER LONG APCH IN MODERATE TURB. ATC WAS OBVIOUSLY AWARE THERE WOULD BE A CONFLICT BUT NOT A WORD WAS EVER SPOKEN EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER THE EVENT. WE ALL WAITED AND HOPED A LITTLE TOO LONG INSTEAD OF TAKING DECISIVE ACTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.