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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 429665 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199902 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : gag.vortac |
| State Reference | OK |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc.artcc military facility : end.milfac |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Talon |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc.artcc artcc : zfw.artcc military facility : end.milfac |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Beechjet 400 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 12 controller time certified in position1 : 10 flight time total : 20 |
| ASRS Report | 429665 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : military |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : military pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : exit non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to original clearance none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Vance AFB called and told me military trainer X was off ir-185. Approximately 10 mins after that call, military trainer X flight called to report point 'india,' which is in the middle of the route. Supplemental information from acn 429666: vance AFB handed off aircraft Y to ZFW and let the aircraft transit my airspace without a pointout or handoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: END MIL TRACON CTLR ADVISES ZKC CTLR THAT A T38 HAS EXITED IR-185 WITHOUT CLRNC OR COORD. T38 RPTS AT AN IR CHKPOINT, WHICH IS IN THE IR. THE ZKC CTLR OBSERVES END XFER CTL TO ZFW, A MIL BE40, WHICH PENETRATES ZKC AIRSPACE WITHOUT A POINTOUT.
Narrative: VANCE AFB CALLED AND TOLD ME MIL TRAINER X WAS OFF IR-185. APPROX 10 MINS AFTER THAT CALL, MIL TRAINER X FLT CALLED TO RPT POINT 'INDIA,' WHICH IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RTE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 429666: VANCE AFB HANDED OFF ACFT Y TO ZFW AND LET THE ACFT TRANSIT MY AIRSPACE WITHOUT A POINTOUT OR HDOF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.