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An air carrier jet with 144 passenger accepted a clearance meant for another aircraft to 'position and hold' resulting in a company aircraft going around.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 425312 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199901 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : clt |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 13850 flight time type : 2100 |
| ASRS Report | 425312 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Clt tower cleared our aircraft into position and hold on runway 36R. We acknowledged the clearance and started crossing the runway hold line. We then heard part of a blocked transmission in which another aircraft reported 'position and hold.' we stopped and tried to verify our clearance and by the time we did, the spacing on landing traffic for runway 36R was too close and a company aircraft made a go around. We later learned that clt tower was using 1 frequency for both runways -- a nonstandard practice for runway 36L&right. Neither runway is visible to the other and at a hub airport with many similar company call signs this practice should not be allowed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR JET WITH 144 PAX ACCEPTED A CLRNC MEANT FOR ANOTHER ACFT TO 'POS AND HOLD' RESULTING IN A COMPANY ACFT GOING AROUND.
Narrative: CLT TWR CLRED OUR ACFT INTO POS AND HOLD ON RWY 36R. WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE CLRNC AND STARTED XING THE RWY HOLD LINE. WE THEN HEARD PART OF A BLOCKED XMISSION IN WHICH ANOTHER ACFT RPTED 'POS AND HOLD.' WE STOPPED AND TRIED TO VERIFY OUR CLRNC AND BY THE TIME WE DID, THE SPACING ON LNDG TFC FOR RWY 36R WAS TOO CLOSE AND A COMPANY ACFT MADE A GAR. WE LATER LEARNED THAT CLT TWR WAS USING 1 FREQ FOR BOTH RWYS -- A NONSTANDARD PRACTICE FOR RWY 36L&R. NEITHER RWY IS VISIBLE TO THE OTHER AND AT A HUB ARPT WITH MANY SIMILAR COMPANY CALL SIGNS THIS PRACTICE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.