<< >> NASA ASRS Report 425190, January 1999

An air carrier MD80 super 80 flight crew reports that an approach controller apparently forgot that they had been cleared to 7000 ft earlier. The controller, after questioning their altitude, allowed them to stay at 7000 ft. No conflict.

Attributes
ACN	425190
Time
Date	199901
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : sea
State Reference	WA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 12000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-80 Super 80
Flight Phase	descent other
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Flight Phase	cruise other descent : approach descent other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
ASRS Report	425190
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial
ASRS Report	425191
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Level at 12000 ft, sea approach asked us if we had an air carrier Y flight in sight. We stated that air carrier Y was in sight and approach cleared us to 7000 ft, which we acknowledged. 2 mins later, approach asked us where we were descending to. We stated 7000 ft and approach told us that that altitude was for air carrier Y, but that we were cleared to 7000 ft anyway. We told the approach controller that we had read back 7000 ft. No conflict noted. We felt that the controller had forgotten that she had cleared us to 7000 ft.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR MD80 SUPER 80 FLC RPTS THAT AN APCH CTLR APPARENTLY FORGOT THAT THEY HAD BEEN CLRED TO 7000 FT EARLIER. THE CTLR, AFTER QUESTIONING THEIR ALT, ALLOWED THEM TO STAY AT 7000 FT. NO CONFLICT.

Narrative: LEVEL AT 12000 FT, SEA APCH ASKED US IF WE HAD AN ACR Y FLT IN SIGHT. WE STATED THAT ACR Y WAS IN SIGHT AND APCH CLRED US TO 7000 FT, WHICH WE ACKNOWLEDGED. 2 MINS LATER, APCH ASKED US WHERE WE WERE DSNDING TO. WE STATED 7000 FT AND APCH TOLD US THAT THAT ALT WAS FOR ACR Y, BUT THAT WE WERE CLRED TO 7000 FT ANYWAY. WE TOLD THE APCH CTLR THAT WE HAD READ BACK 7000 FT. NO CONFLICT NOTED. WE FELT THAT THE CTLR HAD FORGOTTEN THAT SHE HAD CLRED US TO 7000 FT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.