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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 423626 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199812 |
| Day | Sat |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : bhm airport : bmh |
| State Reference | AL |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1600 |
| ASRS Report | 423626 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While taxiing to runway 5 at bhm, we requested and received from ground the following RVR values: touchdown 3500 ft, mid 6100 ft, rollout 0 ft. We referred to bhm 10-9A and our fom 3.346 (lower than standard takeoff minimums) and determined we were legal for takeoff on runway 5 with the given RVR values. After leveloff in cruise, the captain, while stowing his bhm charts, realized he had inadvertently used the data for runway 23. Runway 5 does not allow air carrier reduction below RVR 50 or 1 mi. I failed to back up the captain in determining the takeoff minimums. I was referring to the company manuals and did not look at the 10-9A page. Both aircrew need to back each other up and independently determine takeoff requirements.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC REVIEWED TKOF MINIMUMS FOR WRONG RWY. TKOF MADE BELOW MINIMUMS.
Narrative: WHILE TAXIING TO RWY 5 AT BHM, WE REQUESTED AND RECEIVED FROM GND THE FOLLOWING RVR VALUES: TOUCHDOWN 3500 FT, MID 6100 FT, ROLLOUT 0 FT. WE REFERRED TO BHM 10-9A AND OUR FOM 3.346 (LOWER THAN STANDARD TKOF MINIMUMS) AND DETERMINED WE WERE LEGAL FOR TKOF ON RWY 5 WITH THE GIVEN RVR VALUES. AFTER LEVELOFF IN CRUISE, THE CAPT, WHILE STOWING HIS BHM CHARTS, REALIZED HE HAD INADVERTENTLY USED THE DATA FOR RWY 23. RWY 5 DOES NOT ALLOW ACR REDUCTION BELOW RVR 50 OR 1 MI. I FAILED TO BACK UP THE CAPT IN DETERMINING THE TKOF MINIMUMS. I WAS REFERRING TO THE COMPANY MANUALS AND DID NOT LOOK AT THE 10-9A PAGE. BOTH AIRCREW NEED TO BACK EACH OTHER UP AND INDEPENDENTLY DETERMINE TKOF REQUIREMENTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.