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First officer of a DC9 started descent too late to make a crossing restr causing TA by ARTCC control. Flight crew observed traffic which was no confliction.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 422092 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199812 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : fwa |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zau |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 1920 |
| ASRS Report | 422092 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 422100 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
ATC gave a crossing restr of 24000 ft 10 mi south of fwa. My position was approximately 68 mi south of fwa at FL310. I planned to start down at 40 mi south of fwa, engaged in conversation with captain, I forgot about restr until captain reminded me, at approximately 26 DME south of fwa. Captain reported to ATC not able to make restr, ATC gave a TA (captain reported traffic in sight). I crossed late at 7 DME south.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF A DC9 STARTED DSCNT TOO LATE TO MAKE A XING RESTR CAUSING TA BY ARTCC CTL. FLC OBSERVED TFC WHICH WAS NO CONFLICTION.
Narrative: ATC GAVE A XING RESTR OF 24000 FT 10 MI S OF FWA. MY POS WAS APPROX 68 MI S OF FWA AT FL310. I PLANNED TO START DOWN AT 40 MI S OF FWA, ENGAGED IN CONVERSATION WITH CAPT, I FORGOT ABOUT RESTR UNTIL CAPT REMINDED ME, AT APPROX 26 DME S OF FWA. CAPT RPTED TO ATC NOT ABLE TO MAKE RESTR, ATC GAVE A TA (CAPT RPTED TFC IN SIGHT). I CROSSED LATE AT 7 DME S.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.